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03-03-2024 , 11:14 AM

Paper Tiger

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Hero is first to act in a 4 way 3b pot with an SPR of ~2
Do we pot - get it in? At what SPR/number of players do we check instead of just getting it in?

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03-03-2024 , 06:20 PM

monikrazy

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Pot/call looks good this SPR.

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03-04-2024 , 09:19 PM

nootaboos

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Don’t we have the nuts? Gii. Vs aggro players who stab I’m sometimes check jamming to try get more money in pot.

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03-05-2024 , 12:12 PM

pokerfan655

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This is an interesting spot since it is 5c - I wonder how often someone will have a better hand here given its 4 way. Without looking into the math I would just bet/call - I would not pot as we are not folding out better hands and I want weaker draws to tag along, and potting 4 ways looks incredibly strong.

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03-06-2024 , 06:23 AM

yasuo

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Originally Posted by pokerfan655

I mean, betting less than pot also looks incredibly strong and arguably stronger than potting

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03-06-2024 , 12:19 PM

pokerfan655

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Originally Posted by yasuo

I mean, betting less than pot also looks incredibly strong and arguably stronger than potting

I agree if they think we never bet/fold. I'm just trying to think how to attract worse draws as this is sort of near the bottom of our GII range.

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06-06-2024 , 06:00 AM

CL_FLUSH

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Is this always 3bet squuze pre?

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06-06-2024 , 09:54 AM

hazelasty

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Originally Posted by CL_FLUSH

Is this always 3bet squuze pre?

yes, yes it is. you have with one good suit and one bad suit you may consider flatting, but having 2 nut suits compensate lack of connectivity.

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06-06-2024 , 10:20 AM

CL_FLUSH

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Thanks how about games with much lower SPR?

Lets say you are in a very loose game where you will get a lot of callers and with antes/straddle...

Lets say you have to 3bet 18% of your stack, is this good multiway vs 4 opponents?

I heard from a friend only to squuze with AA when you can get 1/4th of your stack in.

Glad I just purchased a few PLO5 courses so I can start learning this game a bit more in depth. PS Didnt see the double suit in this hand!

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06-06-2024 , 06:23 PM

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Your Mom

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Originally Posted by pokerfan655

I agree if they think we never bet/fold. I'm just trying to think how to attract worse draws as this is sort of near the bottom of our GII range.

What would we bet fold 4 ways here?

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06-19-2024 , 08:59 PM

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cashtorg

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Originally Posted by monikrazy

Pot/call looks good this SPR.

I’m just curious, what hands are we potting without the nut flush draw or at least top 2 in this spot?

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06-20-2024 , 04:02 AM

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OmahaDonk

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Originally Posted by cashtorg

I’m just curious, what hands are we potting without the nut flush draw or at least top 2 in this spot?

We are potting 4 ways, we’re gonna have something good.

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06-20-2024 , 07:57 AM

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answer20

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Originally Posted by OmahaDonk

We are potting 4 ways, we better have something good.

FYP .. lol

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06-20-2024 , 06:45 PM

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cashtorg

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Originally Posted by OmahaDonk

We are potting 4 ways, we’re gonna have something good.

I guess I’m just wondering if sizing down and adding some hands that can b/f in our range is better multi-way. Like anything from 1/4 to 1/2 here still low frequency but could def add in some hands that aren’t AA NFD and sets

We found out that solvers always bet very small in holdem when there’s 3+ on a flop.

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06-29-2024 , 02:20 PM

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damian^

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Originally Posted by cashtorg

id rather rely on player tendencies in these situations (not like i have any clue what the GTO solution is here but 3+ way, lots of players are going to fold to big bets and lots of people will call 1/3 bets and so on...)

if i know i am up against a stabber im definitely check/raising. and against a calling station im betting a little more then half pot.

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