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PLO4 HU 200bb deep w AA 4b pot PLO4 HU 200bb deep w AA 4b pot

05-01-2024 , 10:03 AM
Messed up the title lol, hand is AKK not AA

playing HU with this fish.

He has one betsize postflop (POT)
at the beginning he was kinda passive, but now he is down a few buyins and his 3bet is over 40%. I saw one hand where he 3b KJ83 rbow 150bb deep. Checked down 3 streets on an Ace High board.

Postflop he doesn't seem super crazy, a lot of one and dones. x/x Flop, POT turn, x/x River. stuff like this.

My Question is on the flop, the SPR is about 3. What is the plan here? just POT, POT AI Turn?
I have no idea what GTO lines are like in 4bet pots in PLO4, esp when deeper...Should I even care about the GTO line when playing vs fish?

Also if we were 300bb deep here and SPR was like 6 or so, what is gameplan?

PokerStars - $2 PL Hi (6 max) - Omaha Hi - 2 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

BB: 185.5 BB
Hero (SB): 639.9 BB

Hero posts SB 0.5 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has A K Q K

Hero raises to 3 BB, BB raises to 9 BB, Hero raises to 27 BB, BB calls 18 BB

Flop: (54 BB, 2 players) 2 T 5
BB checks,
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05-01-2024 , 12:10 PM
I dont think gto plays any role here, especially if you been playing with him for a while.
Gameflow is really important, thats why its hard to judge it.

100bb eff this is no brainer pot get it in, so the question is where to we draw the line.

Bet fold doesnt seem great, cant but people on sets in 4bet pots and they have too much top pairs and 34xx hands that ship.
So i guess i just pot flop gii, if guy just calls then ship basically any turn.

300bb deep i think bet fold flop 3/4 is fine, we obv have a ton of value to bet but that deep raising ranges are a lot tighter usually.
If he just calls the 3/4, dont really know, i guess depends on the turn card but its so rare spot anyway.
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05-01-2024 , 01:46 PM
Hero should be slightly more inclined to bet without any backdoor flush draw, full Broadway coverage is nice though hitting pair of a not great.

I like betting something like 1/2 to 3/4 pot, and would consider folding to an xr.
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05-01-2024 , 05:12 PM
I'm definitely betting - if he shoves you have a decision whether or not he shoves bare Tx. If he does then it's a call, if he doesn't it's a fold.
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05-02-2024 , 12:30 AM
Great flop, pot call it off. I would probably stack off on every turn.
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05-02-2024 , 12:37 AM
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Originally Posted by pokerfan655
I'm definitely betting - if he shoves you have a decision whether or not he shoves bare Tx. If he does then it's a call, if he doesn't it's a fold.
This makes me giggle. 100% mandatory fistpump cbet, then call it off if you are ahead and fold if you are beat!
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05-02-2024 , 11:32 AM
I actually don't mind checking back here .. or just go with a 25-35bb c-bet. The issue is any bet size really brings V Donk shove into play on 'blank' Turns whether it's getting frisky or for value/equity denial. If you think you're committed against this Player type, then go 'pot' and end it now before they Turn a cheap 2-pr.

Would V really play AAxx as a flat OOP and then check this Board? Do either of you really have a wheel wrap? If we check we can pretty much see all Rivers even at 'pot' pricing.

If V has TTxx then we get to see the Turn .. which hopefully brings us 'any' Jack and it's still reasonable to continue at 50bb 'with improvement' if we are even considering a fold to x/r aggression on the Flop.

I've seen this spot get checked down by AA/KK quite often. Lots of PF antics and then passive to Showdown. GL
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05-02-2024 , 11:50 AM
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Originally Posted by amok
This makes me giggle. 100% mandatory fistpump cbet, then call it off if you are ahead and fold if you are beat!
Do you have any strat to add here other than being a clown?
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05-02-2024 , 04:50 PM
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Originally Posted by OmahaDonk
Great flop, pot call it off. I would probably stack off on every turn.
This. I can't imagine checking flop or folding vs. this guy for his stack size.
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05-02-2024 , 06:59 PM
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Originally Posted by pokerfan655
Do you have any strat to add here other than being a clown?
Well, I did add a strat. You don't need to cbet this hand if you need to guess what to do when raised.
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05-03-2024 , 07:20 AM
He shouldent have that many TT combos or 55 for that matter,, i would pot, then ship any turn as previous poster said
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05-04-2024 , 10:11 AM
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Originally Posted by amok
Well, I did add a strat. You don't need to cbet this hand if you need to guess what to do when raised.
Why would you not cbet when you're concerned with getting raised which probably happens 10% or less of the time? I'd rather just cbet this dry texture and deny equity - checking is not good here.
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05-04-2024 , 10:43 AM
Because you don't know what to do when raised, as your first post said. Oh wait just fold if he doesn't raise with a ten, gotcha.

I don't mean that I'm not fine just pot-getin the flop. I mean that I'm not fine thinking you somehow must bet it, then do some voodoo guessing **** if raised. You are allowed to think ahead logically.
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05-07-2024 , 03:29 AM
Feel like this is close 200bb deep, going off description of V that he’s likely to just check fold I’m probably barreling although I wish a had a wheel gutter.

Vs aggro or thinking player or worse aggro thinking player I think check behind is my play.
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