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PLO4- Call or shove flop? PLO4- Call or shove flop?

08-05-2023 , 11:49 AM
PokerStars, Omaha Pot Limit - $1/$2 - 6 players
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UTG: $148.34 (74 bb)
MP: $293.61 (147 bb)
CO: $336.98 (168 bb)
BU: $24.46 (12 bb)
SB: $276.30 (138 bb)
BB (Hero): $680.03 (340 bb)

Pre-Flop: ($3) Hero is BB with A A 5 Q
UTG raises to $7, 1 fold, CO calls $7, BTN calls $7, SB calls $6, Hero 3-bets to $42, 2 players fold, BTN calls $17.46 (all-in), SB calls $35

Flop: ($122.46) 6 Q 4 (3 players, 1 all-in)
SB bets $119.46...
PLO4- Call or shove flop? Quote
08-05-2023 , 02:10 PM
Think on this board with this blocker and backdoors you're actually reasonably happy about getting it in overall.
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08-05-2023 , 02:21 PM
That's what I figured. And what I did. I just wanted to make sure that I shouldn't be calling and then say calling off the rest on a non-straightening turn card.
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08-05-2023 , 02:29 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by dtemp
That's what I figured. And what I did. I just wanted to make sure that I shouldn't be calling and then say calling off the rest on a non-straightening turn card.
No, that would be pretty awful if he ever bets that turn with a worse hand, or even frequently a hand against which you have enough equity to call.
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08-05-2023 , 02:52 PM
Yep, makes sense. Just hate the the times I have to shove flop in order to essentially coin flip against his range. But necessary part of plo sometimes. Thanks.
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08-05-2023 , 03:41 PM
Very close - I don't think he's shoving sets, maybe some weaker 2 pair hands. I think this is a fold given we're not much of a favorite over Qx or really any part of his range for that matter. I don't have an equity calc but I'm not sure if we'd have 42% here or whatever you need.
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08-05-2023 , 05:31 PM
Very standard stack-off.
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08-05-2023 , 05:52 PM
ProPokerTools Odds Oracle Results (2.3 Professional)
Omaha Hi, Generic syntax
Board - 6cqd4h
PLAYER_1 AhAc5cQc
PLAYER_2 64,Q4,Q6,57,AQ
600000 trials (randomized)


All-in Equity

 Equity %Wins Hi %Ties Hi %Wins Hi CountTies Hi Count 
AhAc5cQc40.8164%40.3842%0.8645%2423055187 
64,Q4,Q6,57,AQ59.1836%58.7513%0.8645%3525085187 
PLO4- Call or shove flop? Quote
08-05-2023 , 09:40 PM
Ye I think its a shove. I think overall with top pair and overs on this texture its just categorized as "too strong". Your not going to be happy with SB range. But I think you have to pull trigger.
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