here's a hand that I have a few questions about, it is zoom and i have no reads yet.


should I be involved in the hand in the first place? (I usually raise here on the button)


On the flop. BB looks weak leading out small, MP looks weak calling, there is $9.90 in the pot when action gets around to me so I hope they fold but I'm not going to be in too bad shape if they get the chips in with a set.


Thinking about it now though, is my play bad on the flop due to them having better straight draws in their range?


[converted_hand][hand_history]Poker Stars, $0.10/$0.25 No Limit Omaha Cash, 6 Players
Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite. View Hand #37359351

Hero (BTN): $25 (100 bb)
SB: $1.11 (4.4 bb)
BB: $22 (88 bb)
UTG: $14.72 (58.9 bb)
MP: $34.99 (140 bb)
CO: $72.60 (290.4 bb)

Preflop: Hero is BTN with 4 3 8 5
UTG folds, MP raises to $0.50, CO folds, Hero calls $0.50, SB folds, BB raises to $2.10, MP calls $1.60, Hero calls $1.60

Flop: ($6.40) 6 K 7 (3 players)
BB bets $1.75, MP calls $1.75, Hero raises to $13.13, BB folds, MP raises to $24.51, Hero calls $9.77 and is all-in


cheers for any help

If you're going to play this hand, 3bet it, but I wouldn't play it all unless I have a reason to want to isolate the opener very often. Flop is fine, you have a wrap and there's no reason to think you're getting called very often given the flop action.

Fold pre, rest is fine. They have better straight draws in their range but they also have a lot of nonsense. If they decide to continue with a range where you're in bad shape, they are folding a lot; if they continue wider, you're going reasonably well when the money gets in.

This is an open fold at any stakes even on the button. It's an absolutely awful hand.

ah ok cheers guys,

didn't think it was a too bad hand to play on the button with 345 and being suited.

Other than like an A23 flop (the reason I was playing the hand) I will be in a lot of trouble with dominated flushes and dominated straights though I guess

I think there is a strong case to open raise this hand on the button especially in zoom.

The blinds would have to be folding 75%+ or be especially weak postflop for this to be an open OTB. Especially at lower stakes the rake will be a huge factor.

Playing a hand hoping to hit 3 specific cards is pretty bad, your hand runs into the bottom of deck, the draws it flops are easily dominated and it can't make a good 2 pair. That is why it is a really bad hand IMO. Also, the vast majority of hands are suited to at least 1 suit so having a suited hand isn't a strong reason to play it unless it is an ace or maybe a king suit (obviously it helps but if you start playing hands because they are suited you will play every hand). Even some double suited hands can be trouble if they are both sucker suits (eg. 3567ds).

ah ok seems like it's a bad hand in every way then, I'll tighten up (have been about 37% VPIP so far)

cheers for the reasoning as to why it's a bad hand Tofu