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01-29-2011 , 05:51 AM

RusMaggi

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CO is a reg. 20/13 bet flop vs missed cbet 86%. went to showdown is 31%
$1/$2 Pot Limit Omaha Hi
FullTiltPoker
6 Players
Hand Conversion Powered by weaktight.com

Stacks:
Hero ($200.75)
UTG+1 ($255.15)
CO ($361.15)
BTN ($240.25)
SB ($60.50)
BB ($200)

Pre-Flop: ($3, 6 players) Hero is UTG K

Hero raises to $7, UTG+1 calls $7, CO calls $7, 3 folds

Flop: A

($24, 3 players)
Hero checks, UTG+1 checks, CO bets $14, Hero calls $14, UTG+1 calls $14

Turn: 6

($66, 3 players)
Hero bets $42, UTG+1 folds, CO calls $42

River: 4

($150, 2 players)
Hero bets $137.75

check call flop is ok? or too loose? what about turn sizing?
after his call on a turn his range is sets,mb A9**, JT** with spades, so on that river looks like an easy shove, if we decided to bluff turn with our blockers

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01-29-2011 , 06:07 AM

AveeMaria

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Looks pretty good to me

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01-29-2011 , 01:29 PM

Mt.FishNoob

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too large a bet imo

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01-29-2011 , 01:37 PM

Scary_Tiger

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I think you might want to size a little bigger on the turn, but this is fine. I don't really like getting out of line after check/calling this board as the UTG raiser though, you're basically never getting raised because of all the AA** in your range so after you choose not to continuation bet people are going to be very suspect that your hand has much value.

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01-29-2011 , 11:26 PM

AveeMaria

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Originally Posted by Mt.FishNoob

too large a bet imo

Id be shipping my made hands and bluffs on this river given the way the hand played out

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01-29-2011 , 11:28 PM

gimmetheloot

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I think this is pretty horrible, your line doesnt make alot of sense.

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01-31-2011 , 02:53 PM

Mt.FishNoob

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Originally Posted by AveeMaria

Id be shipping my made hands and bluffs on this river given the way the hand played out

his call on turn and this river makes higher bets look real bluffy and maybe snapped off alot imo, depends though, his calling range here should be the same aslong as its at least double the turn size I think, but agian depends, just a general feeling

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01-31-2011 , 03:01 PM

Baneling

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Originally Posted by gimmetheloot

I think this is pretty horrible, your line doesnt make alot of sense.

because the only possible valueline in poker is a c/r right? but its true: leading is most of the time bad as a bluff even if you have alot of valuehands in your range, as most of the losing grinders (that is the majority of players) think like you.

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01-31-2011 , 05:06 PM

emokid

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I like it, cbet the flop though.

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01-31-2011 , 05:54 PM

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Maffff

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Good bluff. Absolutely no reason at all why this shouldn't work.

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01-31-2011 , 07:26 PM

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campfirewest

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I don't like the turn bet into 2 players after checking the flop.

But as played I think the river bluff is good. If the villain had anything he would have jammed the turn.

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01-31-2011 , 08:40 PM

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gimmetheloot

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Originally Posted by Baneling

no, because I dont think we c/c naked T8s and I think that we cbet our wraps pretty fkn often.

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01-31-2011 , 09:02 PM

#13

s1`

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Originally Posted by gimmetheloot

no, because I dont think we c/c naked T8s and I think that we cbet our wraps pretty fkn often.

bink

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01-31-2011 , 09:14 PM

#14

s1`

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Even a mega nit wouldnt fold 58 and you dont have blockers to that

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02-01-2011 , 09:57 AM

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CZI

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Originally Posted by s1`

Even a mega nit wouldnt fold 58 and you dont have blockers to that

He's not folding the absolute top of his range, ergo it's a bad bluff? That's pretty awful logic.

I think we're repping T8 pretty good here, especially since we c/c flop. Not really digging the turn sizing though.

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