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Originally Posted by SteveL91
Calling with 87 isn't THAT outlandish. What hand is strong enough to c/r the flop but c/c turn after picking up a BDFD, then pots the river when the BDFD comes in?
Yeah, I made that sound like his call was outlandish and that isn't really my point. Could be a good bit of hand reading on his part. I guess we could have things like 75xx with decent clubs where the semibluff didn't work but we get sticky and optimistic OTT, or perhaps rarely T9 with the other two being clubs that we somehow played like wild on the flop then turned a mid-strength showdownable hand.
But anyway my point is, if he gets suspicious here (even appropriately so), then we don't need to be worried about finding bluffs to balance our donk-shove range here. We probably should ask ourselves if we even want to
have a donk-shove range here, and if so, we need to play hands like A
TTx
, K
TTx
, or A
T98
so that we can get here. But this is a rare enough spot and observed samples are so small that effort expended in range construction may not pay off.
BTW I just noticed that the flop ten being of clubs makes it hard for us to have the hand we have, but with clubs.