Grabbed by Holdem Manager
PL Omaha $0.10(BB) Poker Stars
Hero ($9.90)
BB ($17.34)
UTG ($3.75)
UTG+1 ($7.59)
CO ($3.35)
BTN ($5.60)

Dealt to Hero 4 K K 4

fold, UTG+1 calls $0.10, CO raises to $0.45, BTN calls $0.45, Hero raises to $2, fold, UTG+1 calls $1.90, CO calls $1.55, BTN calls $1.55

FLOP ($8.10) 8 3 7

Hero bets $7.70, UTG+1 calls $5.59 (AI), CO calls $1.35 (AI), BTN calls $3.60 (AI)

TURN ($24.23) 8 3 7 6

RIVER ($24.23) 8 3 7 6 Q

UTG+1 shows A Q 7 T
(Pre 26%, Flop 48.5%, Turn 87.5%)

CO shows 4 7 J 9
(Pre 22%, Flop 16.3%, Turn 0.0%)

BTN shows T K 3 8
(Pre 11%, Flop 25.8%, Turn 12.5%)

Hero shows 4 K K 4
(Pre 40%, Flop 9.5%, Turn 0.0%)

UTG+1 wins $23.04

I think preflop its ok to 3bet? on the flop less than 1 psb left, even 4 way shove this in? (2 short stacks)

wp

3b depends on CO aa** freq, because:

Interesting thing about double paired suited kings is they always have pretty much at least 10/100 and avg 14/100 in HU/ 3 way/ 4way pot, so juicing the pot is always good unless that edge is magnified or greater by implied odds because everyone is super spewy postflop but that is dumb hypothetical...

but heads up pot against CO 5baa** you are like -14/100

but then you have huge edge when isolation is achieved

so yeah 3b is standard

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Flop is shove, but it is close, if peoples stacks were more equal to yours then I would muck, we would win the pot ~ outright 1/5 times (sim) at default

I coulda just put +1

Like FishNoob said, the 2 shortstacks make the hand more close. I'm seeking for a good reasoning for shoving or folding but it's pretty hard.
I'm usually giving up here b/c I think it's superclose and to avoid variance. I don't know how to do the math on this. Obv we are never getting 3 folds.
If we were covered by all 3 stacks we would have to win 33%,25% or 18% of the time if we shove if 1, 2 or all 3 villains call.
Meh. I'm not even gonna try. Can anyone try to calculate sth here?

preflop okay

but not ever ever cbetting that flop 4way.
c/f this on any heavy action.

would go so far saying cbetting i pretty fatal 4 way, there are so many better boards.

.... bump

I'm playing it the same way as you did. Sure it's not a great flop, but you have to pot and hope UTG will fold.

If the vilains were full stacked though, I'd be check/folding that ugly board.

im not a big fan of 3betting this hand oop but its surely isnt a bad play. flop c/f too many people in the hand and you completly missed + the flop hits their calling range so hard.

Flops so well this hand and since you weren't 4 bet your a bit less likely to be up against a dominating flush draw.

Once its 4 ways to the fairly wet flop I'm leaning towards c/f .

Betting into 3 people enables them to play perfectly vs your line.
Most of them are correctly putting you on the overpair and wont make an incorrect call of your AI.

have you seen the stacksizes? it is only UTG who could really make a mistake

yes your right. maybe check / reevaluate to see what the UTG player does

If it was a heads up pot with UTG are you checking? So check, and UTG shoves and we will fold getting like 5:17/18 ?? All the money is going in light utg has a spr of <1