5-10 Casino game.

UTG opens 35, a lot of callers. I pot it to 250 from the BB with Ah Ac 6h 3d.
Initial raiser folds and 3 players call ( 2 with 2000 stack and 1 with 1000). I cover.
Flop comes Jh 2d 3s.

How do you proceed?

All in. Def.

I would all in at 100bb, but for 200bb I'm not too happy just having bd flush and straight draws.

Reads?
Such a gross spot 200bb deep and 3 ways. Flop really doesn't hit much except maybe JJ and low wraps. Potting just folds out everything you beat and keeps in everything that has you crushed or decent equity.
If there is a compulsive stabber you could check hoping to checkraise and get it HU, but a 1/3 lead should get calls from KK/QQ maybe and evaluate turn. This hand epitomises why playing OOP sucks so much in PLO, you probably have the best hand a lot but can get blown off it so easily by anyone competent.

I think hands with a jack call amount of times to make potting profitable.

So I would assume if you pot it here you only get jammed on by better hands - does AJ really ship it in? I would say bet 300 - I'm sure it'll keep AJ/KJ type hands in there, and you'll get more info if someone ships on you. Your 25% against 2 pair+, so if you can get bet small and get AJ type of hands to GII your equity goes up to 35-36%. If you bet and get called it's not a bad result either - potting just isn't ideal imo.

Hmm.. maybe betting $600 than shipping the turn is better. I just think lots of times pot is nice so you'd want to take it down here against jxxx. I think number of times you run into 3jacks equals same amount random one pair jacks call even though they knowing there up against aces.

Don't 3b pre-flop very often, unless you expect to take it down.

As played, your ev is probably just about enough to put it in, but I wouldn't expect to make much money in this spot.

Seems like a standard all-in. This isn't a flop that hits our opponents calling ranges very hard except for someone showing up with JJxx. We block the set of 3's, we have cards that block rundowns that would flop a straight draw on this board, plus theoretically our opponents shouldn't be calling two raises with hands that connect with the 23 on the board.

So given SPR and board texture, plus our hand, I'm sticking it in here.

Pot is 1000, there are two players with 1750 behind and one with 750. Are we really YOLOing 2k 4 ways with just an overpair?

Unless we are under rolled, yes. We will get it in vs JXXX flipping a lot, if we are beat we can resuck some.

This is just a typical ugly PLO spot where we have to submit to a swing and reload if it doesn’t go well. Better that than as u say allow someone to push us off with an inferior hand when we show weakness

Some flops for sure it’s better to slow down, this isn’t one of them

We all love AAxx. And we are all preflop 3betting with it, except some weird threads I’ve seen on here. If we all love AAxx and we all preflop 3bet, then you need to come up with some flop overpair strategies.

TampaKn1sh, was the only poster that mentioned we had a board pair when he said, “we block the set of 3’s.”

Out of position is difficult. But we have a good hand we don’t want to screw up. And we were the preflop 3bettor. My flop multiway strategy on this particular rainbow board texture as the out of position 3bettor that makes it possible for me to sleep at night is below.

Overpair + Straight draw, bet pot almost always.

Overpair + Board Pair, bet pot almost always.

Overpair, mostly check.

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We have the Overpair + Board Pair. I almost always bet pot here. If you always bet pot here, then you are doing good. If you want to move up to great, then think of some rare exceptions of when you have an Overpair + (set or two pair).

Overpair + Set + two NUT backdoor flush draws, is so powerful you could check and pull players along.

Overpair + Set + one NUT backdoor flush draw, isn’t as powerful, therefore bet 50% pot.

Overpair + top two pair + two NUT backdoor flush draws, bet 50% pot.

Overpair + top two pair, bet pot

Overpair + top and bottom two pair + two NUT backdoor flush draws, bet 50% pot.

Overpair + top and bottom two pair, bet pot

Overpair + bottom two pair + two NUT backdoor flush draws, bet 50% pot.

Overpair + bottom two pair, is a strange hand where your opponents only real continuing range is top set that crushes you, there check this particular combo. To simplify, you could bet pot with all Overpair + Board Pair except check the unique Overpair + bottom two pair.

We all love AAxx and we are all preflop 3betting with it. Become an AAxx overpair combo draw bad ass Mother ****er.

This just isn't a hand we should 3b with, especially this deep. Our 3b range for AA should be very nitty - big DS rundowns. The problem when you 3b pre here and pot the flop is you're face up - what's the point of potting? You're basically at the bottom of your potting range on this flop - are we hoping KJxx or AJxx just ships? Seems optimistic. So there's 1k on the flop - if you bet say 400 and someone ships for 1750, there's 3150 in the pot, 1350 to call, need 43% to call. You have 25% equity 2 pr+,J45, and when you throw in AJ/KJ you have 32% so a clear bet/fold. If you pot it and get one jammer you have to call, but potting can't be right here. I think on a board like this a 1/2 pot bet or something around that number is ideal.

is this a troll? what is this?

+1

With that much money in pot and I think $750 behind the board seems good enough to pot it imo. The times you run into jx deciding to call vs a two pair type hand makes it profitable. I agree though potting pf is probably not the best play. Good advice as I sometimes pot with aaxx to often ty

How are you not banned yet? Please stop posting strat.

I'm a long time lurker. I made my account about 2 years ago, but like I said, I'm a lurker. Today however I had to post because I've screwed up my fair share of AA hands. Today I learned a lot of detail both preflop and postflop. You guys can keep debating the preflop part this deep. But I do know that from now on when I do end up on the flop with AA that I'm going to do a better job of classifying the strength of my AA. I want to become an AAxx overpair combo draw bad ass Mother ****er.

200bb deep I am not re-potting this pre. Based on your title I thought you had 100bb and I thought, standard, now ship it in ... but this spot is exactly why I don't 3b most AA from the blinds when this deep.

As played, I check and evaluate. Might call a small bet or call a shove from the shorter stack if I think it'll be heads-up, but I'm folding pretty often here.

Seconded. $2k is a max buy in live at $1kPLO

OP: if you have more info on stacks sizes and positions might be able to come up with a better play

Preflop was the easiest "set mine" ever. I get that it's also a good squeeze situation but your hand is not strong enough vs how much chips you have behind. If you were much shorter I think 3bet potting pre is easily best.

When you have a really high SPR out of position I think it's better to try to keep the pot size down with weak and middle strength hands, otherwise you are opening up your stack when you'd like to really only be committing with nutted hands.


By reraising preflop this hand you are reducing your SPR for sure but in this case it is not enough of a reduction considering that most of the time you will only have an overpair on the flop and you are then faced with this predicament. Do this instead with medium and high rundowns in multiway spots, and also AKds hands HU, and you'll have a better time.