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Plo 100, 2nd nut flush flop Plo 100, 2nd nut flush flop

03-02-2010 , 06:59 PM
Vilain plays 41/10 with an aggression of ~2.5 on every streets.


Grabbed by Holdem Manager
PL Omaha $1(BB) Replayer
SB ($216)
BB ($68)
UTG ($150)
UTG+1 ($270)
Hero ($174)
BTN ($96.55)

Dealt to Hero 5 8 6 J

fold, fold, Hero raises to $3.50, fold, fold, BB calls $2.50

FLOP ($7.50) 5 A Q

BB bets $7.50, Hero calls $7.50

TURN ($22.50) 5 A Q 6

BB bets $22.50, Hero raises to $90


What do you think about it ? I called the flop to let him bluff on the turn and he pots it again. What do you do here ? Fold, call, raise ?
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03-02-2010 , 07:58 PM
Since he is already commited a raise is fine, but I don't think he is bluffing here a lot...
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03-02-2010 , 08:21 PM
Dont raise, hes not betting a set, he clearly either has the nut flush, bare king or a weaker flush (less likely). Just c/c turn and most likely c/c river
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03-02-2010 , 08:34 PM
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Originally Posted by marek_heinz
Dont raise, hes not betting a set, he clearly either has the nut flush, bare king or a weaker flush (less likely). Just c/c turn and most likely c/c river
+1
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03-02-2010 , 09:19 PM
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Originally Posted by marek_heinz
Dont raise, hes not betting a set, he clearly either has the nut flush, bare king or a weaker flush (less likely). Just c/c turn and most likely c/c river
Perfect advice.
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03-02-2010 , 10:23 PM
you dont have the tenth nuts. its the second nuts.

Not raising is criminal. And the he is not betting a set assumption is not correct either.
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03-02-2010 , 11:00 PM
People dont bet 3 streets with less than the nut flush or the bare nut bluff. Villain dependent, but either way I see no value in raising.
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03-03-2010 , 06:12 AM
you're raise won't be called with a lower flush, not a set. so the only hand you are getting it in with is against the nut flush. c/c c/c std, i guess.
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03-03-2010 , 08:22 AM
Yep, I think you're right and I had to call every streets instead of raising my hand.

Thanks
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03-03-2010 , 11:22 AM
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Originally Posted by uphigh_downlow
you dont have the tenth nuts. its the second nuts.

Not raising is criminal. And the he is not betting a set assumption is not correct either.
you are levelling us right?if not this is bad advice and you give no reason why raising is better than flatting
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03-03-2010 , 01:25 PM
c/c all the way
raise has no value at all.
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03-03-2010 , 01:49 PM
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Originally Posted by Mr.o0
you are levelling us right?if not this is bad advice and you give no reason why raising is better than flatting
Look at the stakes. look at the starting stacksize. Look at how much he has left.

what can you tell?

This is PLo100, the cesspit of PLO rookies. He is not a regular. He has bet almost half his stack.

Bottom line is he is likely not folding any flush that he is betting with.

he has the nuts or nut blocker is a wildly inaccurate characterization of this spot.

Once the board pairs, you lose value or valuetown yourself.

getting it in now is significantly better than hoping he 3 barrels his blocker with a half pot on the river. What kind of dream world are you in?
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