Ignition - $0.05 PL Hi (6 max) - Omaha Hi - 5 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

BTN: 61.6 BB
SB: 85.8 BB
Hero (BB): 127.8 BB
UTG: 43.8 BB
CO: 78.8 BB

SB posts SB 0.4 BB, Hero posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.4 BB) Hero has 4 4 6 8

UTG calls 1 BB, CO calls 1 BB, BTN calls 1 BB, SB calls 0.6 BB, Hero checks

Flop: (5 BB, 5 players) 7 8 5
SB checks, Hero bets 2.4 BB, fold, CO calls 2.4 BB, BTN calls 2.4 BB, SB calls 2.4 BB

Turn: (14.6 BB, 4 players) A
SB checks, Hero bets 8.6 BB, CO calls 8.6 BB, BTN raises to 17.2 BB, fold, Hero raises to 74.2 BB, fold, BTN calls 41 BB and is all-in

Really not sure about this hand. I flop 2nd nut straight in a limped pot. So I lead for about half pot. 3 callers.

I have two 4s, so at this point, I think it's likely villains have open-enders, possibly sets, possibly 2 pairs. However, I also block an 8, which is sort of bad.

Now that I pick up a flush draw, there's really nothing that I'm afraid of on the turn. I bet about 2/3 pot, mainly targeting sets, 2 pair, straight draws, etc. CO calls, BTN min raises... This is super strong.

What's my best play here? If I have the NFD, it's an obvious jam. However, my flush draw is super marginal. Let's pretend BTN has the nut straight, I'm definitely behind in equity. He's never going to fold. Should I just call, which will hopefully induce CO to also call and see the river?

Even though I have a FD, it's non-nutted, and I never have fold equity here, so perhaps jamming is bad?

As played, I jammed, and had 23% equity vs BTN's nut straight with 77% equity.

Don't start leading 2nd nut straights into 4 people. They will play perfectly and the worst that can happen happened. Probably you wouldn't use these sizings with the nuts either.

Gotcha. So you think this is just a x/c on both the flop and turn? It seems a little passive given that nut straight is 69, which is obviously less connected than 98, or 76, etc.

And you think my sizings were too small? I was trying to size down to target weaker hands. If I had the nut straight, I might pot though, especially in a limped pot.

Check and re-evaluate, often just fold. Hands like JT9 or 88 are BETTER than your hand because they can improve.

That's probably the most common leak there is. You can't just bet according to the strength of your hand. Everyone will notice it even if the weaker players won't heavily react to it.

Gotcha. Second nuts is really bad on this board, because there are so many turns and rivers that make it hard to continue.

As played, when I pick up the FD on the turn, I should have just x/c because I'm non-nutted. I shouldn't have gone crazy with just a vulnerable made hand.

Probably just c/f turn.

Idk... I still had 23% equity even against nut straight. But I guess it's super hard to get value with a flush, bc it's so marginal.

Sure. And sometimes you have 0% equity. It's not like you can valuebet your baby flush if you hit.

Ya main reasons for checking flop vs leading:

1. We rarely, if ever, have 3 streets of value vs narrowed ranges
2. We don't dominate continues and still have 2 streets to play oop. Believe it or not plug in bare 46 vs our 4468 and they're pushing eq vs us.
3. Because we've chosen to put this into our leading range our turn range will be poorly constructed, often leaving us guessing on future action.


Pot turn as played -
As played vs min raise on turn never fold - too much eq - prob just call. Repotting here just removes villain's bluffs (rare but not non existent) and by the time he jams our eq share can be pretty bad imo.

Bet for value or equity denial .. can't really count on either in a limped pot even if you max bet. PLO Players are drawn to Pot Odds and they'll be 'in there' as soon as you get one caller.

Def a Turn Check as you don't want to get blown off a made hand by a Player willing to chase high Flush or even realize your BD flush draw for a cheaper price.

I agree the Turn may be x/f depending on the action.

It's OK to 'not' get your stack in every PLO hand. You're OOP, multi-way with a pot that's not big enough to scare anyone away from. Better off laying in the weeds and tilting the table when your Flush is good. When you bet, you're actually making it more difficult for you to remain in the hand come Turn/River if any V gets aggressive. GL

Betting flop is a huge blunder.

I get that it was a mistake, because it will be difficult to get 3 streets of value and I'm dominated by a lot of draws.

But why is it such a blunder? I can easily get called by worse. And this is a limped pot, so ranges are super wide.

It is very possible that someone else has a higher flushdraw. x/f ott depends on which position bets, sizing, and how the rest of the table reacts.

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First off we could be drawing almost dead, and if they do have 69 we are both going to like the same runouts and we will lose a lot when it comes clean.

Second, if we are ahead we are going to have a very tough time realizing our equity as the nuts are pretty likely to change at some point. We will have a weak bluff catcher and often no relevant blockers making us easily bluffable.

If they raise flop with a set or wrap we have to immediately fold.