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05-02-2022 , 07:08 AM
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If I have 2233 double suits, if I go all-in with an opponent before the flop, and the opponent is a good hand, what is the chance that my double suit will be dominated by a larger suit, premise: lop all-in means that there are two of them. The flower appears on the flop

What are the chances of only one being ruled?

thanks
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05-02-2022 , 07:09 AM
2c3c2s3s
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05-02-2022 , 07:12 AM
Hope to calculate by hand, just like middle school students do math, as a math problem, write out the calculation process
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05-02-2022 , 04:58 PM
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Originally Posted by liming1237
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If I have 2233 double suits, if I go all-in with an opponent before the flop, and the opponent is a good hand, what is the chance that my double suit will be dominated by a larger suit, premise: lop all-in means that there are two of them. The flower appears on the flop

What are the chances of only one being ruled?

thanks
Can you rewrite this but in English?
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05-02-2022 , 05:55 PM
This involves the mathematics of poker combinations, I use the translation goole, the English is not good,
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05-04-2022 , 07:57 AM
There are two combinations here, a c(9 2), what does this mean, right?
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05-04-2022 , 11:42 AM
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Originally Posted by liming1237
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If I have 2233 double suits, if I go all-in with an opponent before the flop
...you are significantly behind vs. a 40% range:

ProPokerTools Omaha Hi Simulation
600,000 trials (Randomized)
Hand Pot equity Wins Ties
2c3c2s3s44.74% 268,267287
40%55.26% 331,446287
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05-04-2022 , 12:37 PM
First of all, if you are allin pre with 2c2s3c3s you have bigger problems than working out combos.
However, if my math is correct, there are 194580 remaining 4 card hands.
Of these, 330 combos of 4 clubs (or spades, obv)
3 clubs - 6105 combos
2 clubs - 36630 combos. Total 43065 hands that have 2 or more clubs.
There are 3025 combos that have 2 clubs and 2 spades.
So you have a 41% chance one suit is dominated and a little more than 1.5% chance both suits are dead.

Disclaimer - my combinatorics are a little rusty.
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05-06-2022 , 09:00 AM
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Originally Posted by Kalaea
First of all, if you are allin pre with 2c2s3c3s you have bigger problems than working out combos.
However, if my math is correct, there are 194580 remaining 4 card hands.
Of these, 330 combos of 4 clubs (or spades, obv)
3 clubs - 6105 combos
2 clubs - 36630 combos. Total 43065 hands that have 2 or more clubs.
There are 3025 combos that have 2 clubs and 2 spades.
So you have a 41% chance one suit is dominated and a little more than 1.5% chance both suits are dead.

Disclaimer - my combinatorics are a little rusty.
I don't understand, I hope to write, the calculation process,
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05-06-2022 , 09:31 AM
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Originally Posted by Kalaea
First of all, if you are allin pre with 2c2s3c3s you have bigger problems than working out combos.
However, if my math is correct, there are 194580 remaining 4 card hands.
Of these, 330 combos of 4 clubs (or spades, obv)
3 clubs - 6105 combos
2 clubs - 36630 combos. Total 43065 hands that have 2 or more clubs.
There are 3025 combos that have 2 clubs and 2 spades.
So you have a 41% chance one suit is dominated and a little more than 1.5% chance both suits are dead.

Disclaimer - my combinatorics are a little rusty.
41% sounds about right. I ran something similar through Poker Calculator ...

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05-08-2022 , 10:10 PM
Fold pre - No math required.
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05-10-2022 , 06:54 AM
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Originally Posted by LSD
41% sounds about right. I ran something similar through Poker Calculator ...

Why do you need 4s5h in your first hand, write the combined calculation process
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04-29-2023 , 05:44 PM
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Originally Posted by Kalaea
First of all, if you are allin pre with 2c2s3c3s you have bigger problems than working out combos.
However, if my math is correct, there are 194580 remaining 4 card hands.
Of these, 330 combos of 4 clubs (or spades, obv)
3 clubs - 6105 combos
2 clubs - 36630 combos. Total 43065 hands that have 2 or more clubs.
There are 3025 combos that have 2 clubs and 2 spades.
So you have a 41% chance one suit is dominated and a little more than 1.5% chance both suits are dead.

Disclaimer - my combinatorics are a little rusty.
If the common card after the flop is KS 10D9D, here how to calculate the various distributions, what range to call, what range to fold?
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04-29-2023 , 05:46 PM
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Originally Posted by illiterat
...you are significantly behind vs. a 40% range:

ProPokerTools Omaha Hi Simulation
600,000 trials (Randomized)
Hand Pot equity Wins Ties
2c3c2s3s44.74% 268,267287
40%55.26% 331,446287
The simulator's 2021 off. It Won't open. How did you do it?
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05-01-2023 , 10:57 PM
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Originally Posted by liming1237
The simulator's 2021 off. It Won't open. How did you do it?
If you go to the top level of the site it explains why the sims currently aren't available, and how you can do similar things with the application: http://propokertools.com/
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05-19-2023 , 12:24 AM
Suit domination isn't quite as bad in this particular case because of significant straight flush potential. It's still bad of course, but there is a mitigating factor.
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