i vote for chicagojoey or roy

actually not roy because he is an optimal stacker...
if he wasn't, i'd vote for him
but then again, he does full stack time to time....
so roy or cj

I think there is no real difference if you're playing ss or not. I think roy is competent enough.

but he shortstacks

I don't think it will matter much if you have a "plo guy" there or not, speaking from personal experience.

Appreciate the vote guys but I won't be able to make it, i'm most likely going to be in the newest land of the zealand then.

why not? And what will matter then?

They are going to do whatever they want to do. They have set guidelines, and there is no real negotiation. I don't think anything will matter until they have a true competitor for people to switch to.

Of course, maybe someone else could have more success than I did. I argued for PLO to have its own rake structure and explained the rake was twice as much as NLH, but I was shot down.

I wonder why they called in another meeting.

mbfn to be realcrapdad

ITT i present you this expert call:

Grabbed by Holdem Manager
PL Omaha $10(BB) Poker Stars
SB ($1,442)
BB ($1,000)
UTG ($887)
UTG+1 ($929)
Hero ($1,310)
BTN ($952)

Dealt to Hero J 8 A 9

fold, fold, Hero raises to $20, fold, SB calls $15, BB calls $10

FLOP ($60) K J A

SB checks, BB checks, Hero checks

TURN ($60) K J A A

SB checks, BB checks, Hero bets $40, SB calls $40, BB folds

RIVER ($140) K J A A 7

SB checks, Hero bets $110, SB calls $110

Hero shows J 8 A 9
(Pre 38%, Flop 7.1%, Turn 0.0%)

SB shows K 2 A K
(Pre 62%, Flop 92.9%, Turn 100.0%)

SB wins $357

prob thought he had KKxx.. poor fella

he wanted to see.

Lucky you

I read that wrong at first.

lool

hahah excellent

lol

I really don't have much of an idea on any of that type of stuff and would never know what to say in some sort of "meeting or negotiation" so I would probably be a bad rep for something like that


need one of those people who always crunching random numbers

Can't log into Stars... anyone else?

Fine for me

They restarted their servers at 7am EST for around an hour during which time CZI posted ITT, everything is fine now. ~

Oops yeah didn't see the 5hour difference.

~*tHnX*~

http://www.philgalfond.com/lls/ starts in 10min

idk what you guys think, in my opinion something has to be done with all the shorstacking...basicly 2.5 shorstacks at average at every midstake table the latest months.

The short tables should be re-added ? 30bb max(and let them have fun) and increase the min buyin to atleast 50bb at the normal tables... When there are a couple of shortstackers at each table it stresses me (and probably other mass multitable grinders) because you need to focus more(open tighter ranges from LP than usual) >>> less tables >>> less rake for stars.... And if u have 1 shortstack to your right, you may go from +EV in the game to -EV, >>>> less tables >>>> less rake for stars

Another problem is, lets say 1 year from now (or whatever) when ppl get better and the edges in plo gets tinyer, it will basicly be -EV to fullstack if there are shorstacks present at the tables >>> everyone will start shortstacking...

We need to do something asap to keep this funny swingy game alive before its destroyed by all shortstacks...

Conclusion: add 30bb max tables.