Hi all,

5/5/15 utg straddle we complete TdTs7c6c4d in BB and go five ways to:

($75) 3h4c5c. We x, btn $75, call, straddle call as well. Our redraw if we are getting freerolled is to two outs so I flatted this combo. Obviously c/r better ones. Wonder what would be worst straight plus redraw we’re c/r here.

Turn ($300): x,x,$275, hero? We are $1,300 eff. with btn and $2.9k eff. with straddle. Btn is good reg could do this with a draw too. Straddle is fish.

Thanks,
DT

Turn card matters, but assuming it isn't a club or a 76543, pot it. What are the chances the button has the straight AND a higher flush draw without having the 7 or 6 of clubs?

Your hand would be much more vulnerable if you only had the 6 or the 7 of clubs suited to the ten.

What's more likely if your opponent has 76, 1) that two of his remaining cards are clubs with one bigger than the 7 or 2) every other possibility under the sun?

Turn was 2d. Sorry.

Yup, just jam all-in.

First instinct is jam. I can't ever see jamming the nuts on the turn, which were also the nuts on the flop, being really bad here the way the opponents played their hands. You might have extracted the most value you are going to get out of your straight from BTN, and I doubt that straddle has 67 still at this point. Few people check the nuts in that spot on the turn for fear of it checking through.

But I'm going to think out loud about the consequences of the c/r, and possibly of just flatting again instead.

If we pot to $1125, straddle can't re-open betting with a raise AI to his final $1300, and assuming he does, I suspect BTN will flat with and force you to call. This puts $4200 in the pot with you and BTN having $1600 eff behind. Writing this out, this outcome sucks. We're in a huge pot OOP now.

Assuming straddle folds, BTN has the option to shove or flat. You are calling the shove, but if they flat, the pot is $2550 with $1800 eff behind.

Our gin rivers are non-club [9-A] (16 cards), 3c, 8c for 18 cards, which leave 25 rivers that might help our opponent.

I think you have to basically shove every river (unless you think they'd still stab at the pot after calling your x/r and the river not changing the nuts on the board)

If you only call the turn bet, straddle might raise but will more likely fold or call to close the action. Then you might decide to check/call all rivers, except for the 2 SF cards which you x/r, and maybe throw in a lead occasionally.

After writing that out, I still think pot the turn is best, but this might not be a bad situation to show that you can x/c the nuts 2 streets, to prevent your opponent from always betting 3 times when the nuts never change and all you've done is call.

call the turn, then even some better flushes will check through if the flush comes. If not, you're pot on the river will get called one way.