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Originally Posted by j.a.o.p.
besides stars,i've huge number of hds only for ipoker and ongame....
ongame's essence is basically a scam...imho.
not too long ago..i compared stars with 40%RB vs ipoker with 70%RB (*cough*)...playing at ipoker would save me 2bb/100.....
I also think the Ongame Essence model is dodgy. FWIW I think the culprit is bwin. The moment they left Ongame and merged their player pool with Party Poker, bwin.party introduced the player pool segregation, to I believe NLHE stakes at .5/1 and below (maybe 1/2 and below), effectively making it such that there are less big winners and more rake has to be paid to generate the same amount of winnings. This is their idea of keeping the player pool healthy.
I honestly think nobody should do business with bwin.party. Party management consistently manages to betray people's trust and that is just huge in and of itself. I think it is a problem when a company tries to raise prices behind customer's backs and yet still manages to have the 2nd highest traffic on the internet:
http://pokerfuse.com/features/in-dep...t-party-poker/ and
http://pokerscout.com.
Their recent player pool segregation was also without any information to the public and had to be found out as did the rake changes.
Sorry for the slight off-topic, but I think this tells us something about the current poker economy:
The percentage of the player population that is aware of certain issues is small and/or people who are aware of the issues either do not care or do not want to take action. I think that's an important point, because at the end of the day people may complain, but what threat is there to the actual poker sites? In essence I'm trying to emphasize how strong an argument has to be for Stars to actually reduce current rake at PLO and that it is not an easy task. That being said, I think it's great that Stars holds player meetings and is generally concerned with poker community as a whole. I think a lot of people ITT do not realize that literally no other company does that (to my knowledge).