Hi all,

Hero is pretty new to big o but is a sucker for any game that starts with a 5 and ends with a 5 that includes a straddle, so here we are.

Hero calls a MP raise on the $15 btn straddle with QQ832ss closing the action and we are three ways to ($180):

As-8s-5c. We have nut low with a flush draw, middle pair, and QQ. Preflop raiser pots, CO calls, hero? $500 eff. Do I want to push my equity here and get it over with?

Ok, one more hand for yucks (you all are probably laughing in your seats by now). Hero calls, again closing action in straddle, with Q4567ds. Flop ($180): 6-8-Qcc. Checks through. Turn: 4s, bringing bdfd. We have the nut straight with a club redraw and two pair, giving us a pretty strong high hand. Preflop raiser is fairly aggo and pots it on the turn. MP checks, doesn't seem interested. We're again about $500 eff. Hero?

Thanks,
DT

this hand is pretty weak, very little scoop potential. fold pre I think. you really want to play hands with an ace in them.

flop seems like a good spot to repot. our nut low is a bit vulnerable, but we have plenty of scoop outs and we are not that deep.

Q4567ds.


this hand is almost worthless. middle cards are really bad in o/8.


call I guess on the turn. you are getting freerolled which is why you don't play these hands. and you run a big danger of getting bluffed off your half of the pot on the river.

Hand 1 I fold pre. Now that you are here, gii.

Hand 2 fold pre. Gross hand. I would just fold flop. This looks so pretty, but so many hand can crush you, quarter you, or you just chop. Not worth it to me.

Edit: I play big-o every day, but it's online and smaller stakes (.5/1 mandatory 2 straddle).

1, move in, nothing else to do. This shallow, fold preflop, but not horrible to call closing the action.

2, fold pre. Calling is horrible. As played, the main thing you have to understand is your hand is terrible. You are being freerolled 95% of the time. Folding means you are giving up a possible $90 of equity. Calling means you have to put in 500 to win 90. Again, you have to fold this pre, but if you were playing online and misclicked to be in this pot, you probably should flip a coin between fold and call.

Hand 2: Everyone says I’m freerolled. You think V has A2 75? Or A2cc/ss?.

Who knows, but you are most likely chopping at best. I don't ever play these types of hands in Big-O, especially for a raise. I used to, but I learned my lesson

You really do want to play scoopable hands. I sometimes play for hi-only, but that's in position w/ really good hi hands and I'm very careful.

I thought V could certainly have A2 as the pfr, but I wanted to protect my equity against the two flush draws if possible with a third V in there. Bad way to think about it? (And yes I get that preflop is a fold.)

There is not much protecting in Big-O If they have a nut (or even good) low and any redraw for a nut (or close) high, they are never folding. In NLHE or even PLO, this is not bad, but in this game, you lose at least half way too often.

If you have a great read on the player -- maybe he always pots turn when it checks through on flop -- go for it (you obviously have to shove), but I don't like it. So many cards can crush you and your low sucks.

they don't need A2 w/ fd to free roll you. all they need is any low with any high equity what so ever. they are free rolling you because they get half the pot for the low, and if they improve to beat you for high they get that half also. that's why so much emphasis is placed pre in this game in having an ace and two wheel cards, so you can make relatively unscoopable nut lows and something for high.

Quick take.

Hand 1, jam it.

Hand 2, call and see a river. We can't fold imo but seeing a river is more profitable than immediate jam.

You are calling $180 on turn leaving you w/ about $300 -- actually probably less than $300 if I read it right and definitely less than pot on river? I can't even imagine. What river are you folding?

Deciding which river cards hero folds is complicated, and villain dependent. We showdown most rivers.

But we are trying to create a situation where villain can make costlier mistakes on river with 1psb left OOP then he will vs immediately turn jam.

But it seems fairly close, i don't have a strong preference for playing it this way - really depends more on the villain.

2nd hand is 100 percent fold pf. I'm fine with closing the action call in hand 1. Now jam.