This is a home game with three games: NLHE, NLO, and a $5 double board bomb pot and then No limit Omaha after the flop.
Started with 8-9 people, it's now hours later and we have 4 left.
V1 Very loose ~$300
V2 Also very loose, but also bluffy. Way too happy to apply pressure with any kind of draw and has bet big on rivers with air. Has been pretty agressive with good but not nut hands on one board with nothing on the other. Most (maybe all) of the big bluffs with air reads from NLHE though. ~$550
Hero covers by a lot, hasn't shown any huge bluffs. Not sure he's actually shown any.
Hero has: J8d64d
Pot: 20
Flop B1: T97r
Flop B2: J73r
Probably one diamond on each board, but def. one diamond on the bottom and both rainbow. I'd been checking basically full range when there were lots of people and weren't BTN or maybe CO and HJ, but been betting half pot sometimes now with the smaller number of players when I hit.
In general I assume putting a lot of money in on flop is bad, esp. as I can probably react to turns better than V's? But having the nuts on one board plus a bunch of possibilities on the other made me wonder if I should go big? Anyway...
V1 checks
H bets 10
V2 calls
V3 folds
V1 calls
Pot: 50
Turn B1: T97s8s
Turn B2: J724r
Wasn't sure if I should just check now? Obv. terrible card on B1, but B2 was better and H didn't...
V1 checks
H bets 20
V2 snap makes it 65
V1 folds
H sighs and calls 45
...I can see V2 having a lot of worse hands, esp. possible I have 3/4 of the pot ... but I did wonder if it might be best to just fold now. Not a lot of rivers I'm happy with, and lots of QJ for V2 probably play this way but it seems pretty weak to fold for 45.
Pot: 180
River B1: T97s8s Ks
River B2: J724 5r
H checks
V2 snap shoves ~475
...at the time I thought it was close to 100% that V2 shoves any nut flush on B1 (and very likely semi bluffed those on turn) and maybe any Q high flush too.
Also possible shoving JT63ss or A5s3s or something.
you have the nuts on board 2, right? and the fact that the 8s is dead on top is important because it reduces the combos he can have that include a flush + 86. would be good to know the suits of your other two cards as well as the exact suits of the two boards in order to rule out other combos too.
in PLO this is such an easy call, in NLO i guess there is some depth where we fold to an overbet shove, but against this villain i think we still call off here.
i would probably have check-called flop and turn vs. reasonable sizings. i don't mind betting flop but would definitely check turn.
Yeh, we flopped the nuts on B1 and had not much on B2, then backed into the nuts on B2 but didn't have much on B1 anymore.
For suits I know I had two diamonds and no spades.
Results:
Spoiler:
Was prepared to sigh call $200-$250 on the river, but when V snap shoved 475 I thought it was too much (more likely has a nut hand on at least one board, maybe even nut spades). So it was more likely I'm losing B1 than not chopping B2.
Didn't think enough about the 8s blocking a lot of scoop hands, esp. as I think it's very likely V raises flop with all J8 combos so it kind of needs to be 86:ss hands to scoop.
We'll probably never know, but I'll def. try to check turn more in this kind of spot.
Either way we have a nut gutter on the turn. I would check call as we could be dead on top. River is close. 68 would’ve flopped a straight on top and now has nuts on bottom. Pretty easy for him to have 68ss though that’s an optimistic raise on turn.
Calling 475 to win 90 isn’t great though I would guess we chop a lot against something like QJss. I think with nuts / straight we are supposed to call especially 4 handed. Tbh I am not sure what I would do. Once in a while we win 3/4 too. I guess I sigh call.
It was meant to be J72 everywhere.
I was trying my best to remember the cards hours later, so I wouldn't bet 100k it wasn't actually J73 but I'm pretty sure it was just top pair and backdoors on B2. Also pretty sure that when I hit two pair on the turn it wasn't J734 as I assume I worry enough about 65 to check then.
