Playing 6 handed.

The one time I decide to raise a little lighter than normal. Should I fold this pre or is raising here ok? What about on the flop? He has pretty much the one hand I do not want him to have.


iPoker - €20 PL Hi (6 max) - Omaha Hi - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

Hero (UTG): €1,454.16
MP: €2,573.40
CO: €2,110.00
BTN: €2,174.50
SB: €2,016.70
BB: €2,772.80

SB posts SB €10.00, BB posts BB €20.00

Pre Flop: (pot: €30.00) Hero has 7 7 A 5

Hero raises to €60.00, fold, CO calls €60.00, fold, fold, BB calls €40.00

Flop: (€190.00, 3 players) 3 9 6
BB checks, Hero bets €120.00, CO raises to €420.00, fold, Hero raises to €1,394.16, CO calls €974.16

Turn: (€2,978.32, 2 players) A

River: (€2,978.32, 2 players) 5

Hero mucks 7 7 A 5 (Flush, Ace High)
(Pre 54%, Flop 28%, Turn 3%)
CO shows K 9 5 6 (Flush, Ace High)
(Pre 46%, Flop 72%, Turn 98%)
CO wins €2,968.32

I think checking here and disguising your hand is best. I wouldn't raise pressure though. That's the mistake imo. NH

Yes .. This Flop really shouldn't hit your PF raising range other than AA/KK with flush draw. And even if you do have 'that' hand your opponent has connected plenty to try and crack them at 70bb effective.

It's perfect for a x/c as you have a double gutter and block the 7s. Remember that even if you hit the high side it's not the nuts. You don't have the BD flush draw either.

While I'm one to mix it up plenty you still have to approach the hand as if you are raising 'normally' when looking at the Board .. and you really should have very few hands that would discourage a V to fold if they've connected with this one.

More of a live guy here, but when you see aggression when stacks are under 100bb you really need to be comfortable that you have 'good' equity .. and there's really not a ton of good equity here. GL

Preflop is a clear raise.

I think betting the flop is fine, but so is checking. FlopHero (solver) likes to pure bet your specific combo, and is checking many other versions of A775, and I suspect that is due to the flush blockers. Once villain raises though I think you can safely fold as villain raising range is dominated by higher flush draws + top pair or better type hands. A9cc and such, and you are really just deciding to stack off with a gutshot and maybe a draw to a set of 7s.

So, bet, fold flop is fine here. Call it off with nut flush draw though.

70bbs deep its a clear raise? I don't think middling pockets are worth it at that stack size.

It's a double-suited ace with a pair and some connectivity. It's a clear raise at 70, 100, 200.

You raise this hand from utg 100 percent of the time than?

Yes.

I see

Let me be a bit more clear: the only hands ARROxxyy that I will fold UTG (if I am playing right) are:
A[66-88]2
A[6-8]22
A833

So, yes, A733ds is a raise, but it would also be fine to fold.

So, I have a rule where ARRO:xxyy is an open raise, and I probably get the above hands wrong, but they are much fewer than the ones I get right.

I am not sure of what you mean with arroxxy. What's that mean??

It's propokertools syntax
A - Ace
RR - any pair
O - any other card, not an ace not an R
: - and
xxyy - double suited

so:
ARRO:xxyy - Ace, with a pair, and a side card, and double suited (ie. As7h7s3h)

edit:
A[66-88]2 - short hand way of writing A266, A277, A288
A[6-8]22 - short hand way of writing A226, A227, A228
A833

All of the above double suited.

Is this just for 6 handed play or any handed, including 8+?

I only study 6 handed play and the site I use only covers that and this hand is at the threshold of profitability so I suspect it's a fold at 7 handed+ UTG.

Only betting flop vs a donk who will call super wide, think vs anyone reasonable we need to check for pot control and deception.

Gotcha thanks

I don't open this UTG, and if I see someone opening A733ds UTG, absent any other information, I'm assuming they're a fish. It's a great example of solver outputs relying on perfect postflop play from us in order to be justified, but in reality, we're not going to know when to play our bottom set no extras for stacks and when to fold it, and the benefit we get from having a set of 3s in our range isn't very useful to us, where the solver wants to be able to maximise board coverage.

Postflop this is pretty awful. As played I would fold to the raise. Great spot to check and hope to spike one of your 4 nut outs.

I agree that pre is a speculative open. We've all made speculative opens, and this is a good speculative hand.

I think betting flop is the bigger problem.

Hero should be checking this flop with most of his range, and its even worse to bet this hand because we risk being blown off a lot of equity by bet-folding incorrectly (our hand gets wrecked by tons of better flush draws).

Yes that's true do we bet turns of like Jack's because opponent didn't bet flop or just check again and realize out equity?

Agreed, but I'm a live full-ring player and not an online 6-maxxer so your results may vary

Pre is shrug fine. Post, betting with a clear thought "I'm bluffing" is probably ok but checking may be better still, especially 3 ways not acting last.

idk i see it opening a775ds at both 50 and 100 bb at 8 handed 1/1 bb with what i think is no rake on nandez's site. in practice you will have rake in most games but you also will have a more standard blind configuation than 1/1. its opening a733 ds at 100bb but not at 50bb. again this is utg 8 handed.

6m even in high rake i see it pure opening a733ds utg although its very marginal, and a775ds is a clear winning open. post id pure check / call your hand and i think stacking off with your combo in this manner is a decently large mistake.

yeah, stacking off this light in a single raised pot is no bueno. i actually think bet call and check call are both defensible.

i mean he has the one hand u dont want him to have, but bigger clubs are going to be a big part of his flop range. he's not going to be whaling off with just a wrap or bottom two or something. it's big draws and sets for the most part, maybe some weak hands that fold if u come over the top if hes a good player.


i'm surprised at the analysis of our hands value before the flop. this seems like a very clear open to me, and we should be opening substantially worse hands as well. at least 100 bb deep we should, i dont think the 70 bb stack makes a big difference anyway perhaps im wrong.

Very standard check on the flop. This hand plays very poor vs a raise. Don’t play 2k plo dude these are basic concepts.