I lost a post I had typed out - I am bad at this game.
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Originally Posted by ham on rye
thanks all. on the flop, my goal was to be able to 3-bet AI if raised and also to balance with the times when i will have some probing bets into this large field with some less nutted holdings.
I don't think you should have many hands worse than this in your leading range in this spot aginst 3 opponents. In fact, I would lean towards checking my entire range here as a default because what are you betting and how can you balance that with any bluffs? I'd be curious to get peoples thoughts on this in a multi-way spot like this on a dry board, or even a more dynamic board.
I think all leads you have should be larger than 1/3rd though - I can't imagine that is ever going to be the right size on a board like this nad would prefer to see all leads size up to half-pot or larger, if we develop a leading range at all.
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I raise this hand pre and the whole A:RR:$ds class. Even if you trim some, I'd keep this.
I agree with this as a RFI, but after a button straddle and two limps ahead of us I think we would just be creating a bloated pot oop with a marginal hand and this specific marginal hand doesn't mind playing multi-way but it would generally prefer to play with a higher SPR, so I'm fine with the overlimp. I could be wrong here.
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The river I'm calling for sure, but if we had made changes earlier in the hand I think we end up with an easier decision here.
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Originally Posted by grant2
You said villain plays wild the first orbit so I don't see how this is ever a fold.
if he backed into straight, sucks to be you. But villain is going to reveal 2pair, worse sets, AK, and random missed flush draws most of the time.
Although I agree river is a call I think villain has a straight here quite often due to our small flop bet. It's easy for him to call, closing the action, with a 9 hand that has backdoor straight draws and got there.