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Middle set MW against double barrel Middle set MW against double barrel

06-23-2023 , 06:16 AM
Very new to Omaha, is this the kind of spot where middle set is no good?

Presumably calling turn is out of the question with these stack sizes, but if I jam am I going to run into KK and/or the NFD almost always?

PartyGaming - $0.05 PL Hi (6 max) - Omaha Hi - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

MP: 100 BB
CO: 42.2 BB
BTN: 49 BB
Hero (SB): 100 BB
BB: 197.2 BB
UTG: 466.8 BB

Hero posts SB 0.4 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.4 BB) Hero has 6 Q 6 Q

UTG raises to 3.4 BB, fold, CO calls 3.4 BB, BTN calls 3.4 BB, Hero calls 3 BB, BB calls 2.4 BB

Flop: (17 BB, 5 players) 6 3 K
Hero checks, BB checks, UTG bets 12 BB, CO calls 12 BB, fold, Hero calls 12 BB, fold

Turn: (53 BB, 3 players) 2
Hero checks, UTG bets 37.8 BB, CO calls 26.8 BB, Hero...?
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06-23-2023 , 12:32 PM
Yes, you will often run into Ahh or KK on turn

I even fold flop. You are not obligated to continue this hand when 5 ways to the flop
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06-23-2023 , 04:08 PM
You jam the flop. GTO might say something different but GTO might not be able to beat the rake at this level
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06-24-2023 , 12:00 AM
Taking a passive call down line with top two or bottom and middle set is in general fine since if you raise you are usually going to fold out a lot of the made hands you beat. Raising flop is also fine and a lot of comes down to reads and dynamics. What I like to do is is when I have a hand like this, or a hand that is even worse (like if i have top pair or bottom pair to go with my middle set) then I do more calling down, whereas if I have backup like a straight draw or flush draw then I ram and jam.




I see no problem with just calling turn also. We can probably bail on a heart, and if UTG has us beat it's probably still by KKK not 45. Co probably does not have 45.
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06-24-2023 , 04:35 PM
The rake hurts your call significantly and I don't like a 3b vs utg so I would fold pre.
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