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Originally Posted by xaxa
Very nice Job OP! Sick & tilting stuff
I dont even want to know what happens on smaller sites...
According to the card sharing: can you figure out/ filter these accounts and check there winnings with K high flushes?
This is far beyond anything I can do, I dont datamine.
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Originally Posted by joeri
Schwein,
If they are card sharing the zoom pools; i expect many accounts on all the limits.
Have you checked out some zoom grinders of the 500 pool? Or does that one seems less affected?
Of course, I have checked everyone I could from zoom 500, no one even remotely suspicious. From my list a few accounts played a few K hands on zoom 500 and SusaaNiN probably played around 300K hands there (189k hands on Russian PTR but they miss alot for zoom). He didnt do well, -4.2BB winrate.
As for the card sharing I really dont know. That is just a hypothesis. From people that posted here TrollAcount has a really large DB. He provided me with some very valuable screenshots.
A large DB alone isnt worth anything. The only way to find out if they are card sharing is to create a DB with hands where there were always 2 or more of them at the same table. I dont know how to do it using HEM, I am sure its doable but requires some SQL coding skills.
Once you prepare such DB of hands you can check how much above EV they are and calculate the Sigma, if its above 4 then they are sharing without a doubt.
From my limited knowledge of how bots are actually programmed, the non adjustable GTO like bots are rather hard to program to alter they play based on shared hole card information. And trying to implement such solution complicates everything. They would have to communicate at all times etc. The playing schedules of 4somniare and SuSaaNiN almost dont overlap. There was only one bot on PL50 regular tables and he did very well. There were 2 bots on PL100 zoom and after one of them was gone the other continued to do well. I am rather sure they dont share (I might be terribly wrong on this one).
I have created an alias for the in my DB and they are a lot below EV. (its irrelevant, just stating a fact)
EDIT: Sharing holecards greatly increases the risk of getting caught, why take risks if they are crushing anyway.
Last edited by Schwein; 06-08-2015 at 04:26 AM.