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Originally Posted by MartinK1979
I am more a feel/instinct player and not a GTO fan.
I like doing what I feel, is the right play in this certain situation. What you guys suggest would be the right play in vacuum. But there is no vacuum in a live cash game, which is about 5 hours long, which some crazy stuff and some crazy spots allready.
In this spot with history and table dynamic and players tendencies, view of me an my play..I decided to lead out and have to face a decision for my whole stack..I am down 2k at this point and the one thing I know at this point is the possibility to comeback strong in this Session and to win one of my biggest pots ever. My hand is no great I know...but I know what this guy is trying to do and try to show to other players at the table: I am not raise the BTN to fold or to call to this fishy looking lead out of this guy, so f*** off I will raise here. And you know guys, I was right, I had my 50% equity here, better than I ever expect to have..
And let me say something:
That is poker for me, that is the game I like to play. Facing big decisions and play always with passion and with my heart.
Sounds like you are justifying things based on how you like to play - we all play based on a combination of elements that always include feel/reads/momentum/etc. It's not as simple as being Game Theory, there are multiple dynamics at play that need to be accounted for.
The reason everyone hates the spot you put yourself in I explained previously - the goal in PLO is to dominate your opponents ranges when the money is getting shoveled in.
That board is incredibly likely to have hit your opponent's range in a raised pot; most people playing raised pots are playing bigger cards and a 9-10 board gives an incredibly amount of wraps/sets/two-pair/etc.
Play however you want bro; go off of feel, do it for the thrill, for the "passion and the heart." We are just analyzing things from an outside perspective to try and help you gain some insight; your mindset is something only you can know (we can't play as you).
If you are forcing all-ins unnecessarily and praying for 50% equity so you can "come back strong in this session" it sounds like you are going to be donating more stacks in the near future.
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Originally Posted by monikrazy
Fwiw this hands backdoor potential is pretty strong and can still have up to 35% or even a little higher against a value range. Obviously stronger hu as our bad straights win much less multiway.
So i think the suggestions that this is a fold after betting are a bit hasty.
I think that's a valid point - however, one mistake begets another right?
Don't call PRE, situation avoided.
Don't bet flop, situation avoided.
We played PRE, we bet the flop - the grave has been dug, time in crawl in and shovel the dirt, right?
Not saying it's even a fold, just that it's a completely avoidable situation - the opponent's range is wraps, sets, two-pair w/draws; it absolutely destroys us, that's why we aren't in this pot to start with.