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Live 1/2 PLO, top pair in 3 bet pot Live 1/2 PLO, top pair in 3 bet pot

03-28-2024 , 08:59 PM
Kind of an annoying spot and not sure what to do here. Live 1/2 PLO, when someone pots initially it's $15.
No significant reads on the players. We are new to the table.


Hero has $540
CO covers,
BTN covers,
SB only has $130 (We didn't realize until later in the hand)

Preflop: Hero A Q J 4 in BB
Folds to CO who opens to $15, BTN calls, SB calls, Hero pots to $75, all 3 players call

Flop: J 7 5
SB donk shoves for $55, Hero calls (not sure if should be doing something else here), CO folds, Btn shoves, hero?


We only have about ~$390ish back and there is now $465 in the pot. What are we doing here? Would anyone shove initially when facing the small sb donk?
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03-28-2024 , 11:51 PM
Awkward spot but call seems like the best option, we can decide how to proceed vs a jam later. Mostly Hero can fold turn if he doesn't improve.
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03-29-2024 , 12:17 AM
Well played if you folded to btn shove imo. Sb put you in a really bad spot.
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03-29-2024 , 10:11 AM
Would think this is a fold - run an equity calc but I would expect to see top pair and a flush draw a lot here.
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03-29-2024 , 02:00 PM
I don't think going broke here is that horrible.
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03-29-2024 , 03:38 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by amok
I don't think going broke here is that horrible.
This.
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03-29-2024 , 11:49 PM
You need to win 45% of the time to make this call if my math is correct. Even against pure King hi flush draw or better, btn shove has 60% equity against you. Throw in some pair+str8 draws and it's looking worse

I'm having a hard time seeing how you can call here. What's the rationale?
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03-30-2024 , 03:10 AM
I need less than 45%. There is 300 in the pot on the flop. With the 55 x 3, the pot now has 465 in it and we have less than 400 back. 400 to win 1265. We need 32% equity.
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03-30-2024 , 10:19 AM
ProPokerTools Odds Oracle Results (2.3 Professional)
Omaha Hi, Generic syntax
Board - JC7C5D
PLAYER_1 aDQHJD4H
PLAYER_2 JJ,77,55,J7,J5,J:CC,7:CC,AJ
600000 trials (randomized)


All-in Equity

 Equity %Wins Hi %Ties Hi %Wins Hi CountTies Hi Count 
aDQHJD4H30.3798%26.4708%7.8178%15882546907 
JJ,77,55,J7,J5,J:CC,...69.6202%65.7113%7.8178%39426846907 
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03-30-2024 , 10:56 PM
With one all-in behind call looks okish.
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03-31-2024 , 12:58 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by PhatPots
I need less than 45%. There is 300 in the pot on the flop. With the 55 x 3, the pot now has 465 in it and we have less than 400 back. 400 to win 1265. We need 32% equity.
AH my math was completely wrong. Thanks for the explanation.

Quote:
Originally Posted by pokerfan655
ProPokerTools Odds Oracle Results (2.3 Professional)
Omaha Hi, Generic syntax
Board - JC7C5D
PLAYER_1 aDQHJD4H
PLAYER_2 JJ,77,55,J7,J5,J:CC,7:CC,AJ
600000 trials (randomized)


All-in Equity

 Equity %Wins Hi %Ties Hi %Wins Hi CountTies Hi Count 
aDQHJD4H30.3798%26.4708%7.8178%15882546907 
JJ,77,55,J7,J5,J:CC,...69.6202%65.7113%7.8178%39426846907 
this makes it seem close. Thanks for sharing.
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03-31-2024 , 04:14 PM
very broadly 33% odds

bur the side pot i think complicatea the math, and not in a good way

opponent.can easily be beating you now and.have.good redraw options
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03-31-2024 , 06:48 PM
This is a fold or a punt. I actually think you lose this pot a lot more than 70% of the time.
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