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08-02-2023 , 12:40 AM
Hi all,

This $10/$10/$50 game hero limps in ep with the pretty KQJT7ds k- and Q-high there is a raise to $200 and we go multi-way to:

($1050): 982dds. We flop big wrap on fd board and we lack either flush draw. It checks through.

Turn: 6s bringing a bdfd now. We have the nuts with a higher straight draw and one spade blocker. It checks to the button, an action player who may be playing a little more snug than usual since he is winning. He pots it. It folds to hero with a few players behind us, $2.3k eff. They are deeper with the action player.

Comments on preflop also welcomed. Can probably go many ways with this one.

Thanks,
DT
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08-02-2023 , 03:55 AM
I don’t play much PLO5 so my opinion might be dogshit~

I’m probably raising this hand in any position tbh.

Could you explain your check on the turn? Like what are you trying to achieve, see a free brick river?

Im super happy potting turn first to act.

As played I’m shoving turn and hoping actionman puts in a 3rd bet. Even if he’s free rolling a FD we have just as many outs for our redraw.

What does deeper with the action player mean exactly, $5k $10k?
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08-02-2023 , 05:18 AM
Not sure what limping achieves. Im raising to build a pot and for a single raised pot rather than multiway limped pot.


Flop i play same but on turn im potting. Are you 2.3k deep so spr 2.3? As played, check raising all in.

Not sure what the question is
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08-02-2023 , 11:05 AM
I would have potted flop with wrap draw and no flush. Good chance intial raiser folds likely holding AAxxx or AKKXX or some other variant and missed completely. You would have chased out anyone open ended with a flush draw that wasn’t the Ace on the flop with a pot bet. Now that you hit your hand on turn, I would not raise the a pot bet as someone else likely has the same straight and is free rolling you if the board pairs or a flush hits. Check/call because you never chased out worse draws that have hit their hand and could spike a small flush with same straight. I don’t really like holding only straights more than 2 handed heading to a river with a flush draw as well out there as a board pair or a flush hitting are fairly likely.
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08-02-2023 , 01:20 PM
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Originally Posted by nootaboos
I don’t play much PLO5 so my opinion might be dogshit~

I’m probably raising this hand in any position tbh.

Could you explain your check on the turn? Like what are you trying to achieve, see a free brick river?

Im super happy potting turn first to act.

As played I’m shoving turn
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Originally Posted by Round of 6
Not sure what limping achieves. Im raising to build a pot and for a single raised pot rather than multiway limped pot.


[Given the way preflop went] Flop i play same but on turn im potting. Are you 2.3k deep so spr 2.3? As played, check raising all in.

Not sure what the question is
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08-04-2023 , 04:39 PM
I would have played it differently on every street. Why don't you like betting. The poker gods will punish you if you keep on trying to do what you're doing.
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08-06-2023 , 12:12 PM
if you jam this turn, other players in between have to worry about button re-jamming since your raise is enough to reopen the action. so their remaining stack depth probably matters insofar as the threat of a rejam will give you some protection, though i think it's an easy jam as played either way.

as to the other streets, i can see a scenario where there is merit to limping this in EP, but i am probably opening under most conditions.

i am actually fine with a flop check here. very easy to end up forced to get it in vs a dominating draw if we lead and get raised. who was the PFR and how aggressive they tend to be matters to the check/bet equation, but probably not a ton if you are seeing it 5 ways.
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08-06-2023 , 01:34 PM
Oh, wait, no I also definitely would have checked the flop.
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08-06-2023 , 01:51 PM
Pre can go either way. Forcing players to fold pre is a fine result but our hand is fine multi way too. Flop clear check, we are never pushing equity Vs continues. Turn we have lots of good options. Pot it ourselves, check call is ok but I like crai. If it checks around and the river is a blank we might get looked up by straights or sets. If someone bets and someone else calls we get to reopen the action.

That said potting turn yourself is fine.
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