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KKds vs UTG raise 3bet or call KKds vs UTG raise 3bet or call

02-23-2015 , 06:14 AM
Hi all,
Been dabbling in PLO lately not sure how to play the hand below IN GENERAL.
Also need advice if my thought process is correct:
UTG range is tightest in general so i hate being 4bet here since i believe i have to fold.Also i like my hand a lot but its not a true premium KKxx hand because of the 5 dangler.Make it any 9+ and i believe its an easy 3bet.
I dont mind faltters behind since i am DS+ its a hit hard or fold type of hand.
I am UTG +! may be 3bet OTB.
Ive been 4betted in the past w hands like AQJTds against which folding is a mistake so i dont like folding to a 4bet if thats the case but his range is still AA heavy.
I am not looking for justification of my flat i actually think i made a mistake
here but my question is what to do IN GENERAl.

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Poker Stars $0.02/$0.05 Pot Limit Omaha Hi - 6 players - View hand 2661217
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BTN: $4.85
SB: $6.64
BB: $3.87
UTG: $5.00
MP: $5.30
Hero (CO): $4.93

Pre Flop: ($0.07) Hero is CO with 5 K Q K
UTG raises to $0.15, 1 fold, Hero calls $0.15, BTN calls $0.15, 1 fold, BB calls $0.10

Flop: ($0.62) 6 T 6 (4 players)
BB checks, UTG bets $0.30, Hero raises to $1.15, BTN folds, BB calls $1.15, UTG calls $0.85

Turn: ($4.07) 9 (3 players)
BB checks, UTG checks, Hero checks

River: ($4.07) 4 (3 players)
BB bets $2.57 all in, UTG folds, Hero calls $2.57
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02-23-2015 , 06:21 AM
pre is fine. You dont wanna raise the flop bcz ur filtering the part of their range we beat.. Every worse fd , Tx, gutters of w/e folds and you will only get action from nfd, 6x or AA.

So i'd call the flop.

The river is a clear fold. We beat nothing.

Last edited by Doncabelero; 02-23-2015 at 06:35 AM.
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02-23-2015 , 03:51 PM
You guys fold overpair KK on a FD missed flop getting almost 3:1?
I admit i am a NL player but this looks wrong to me.
If this is correct fold then this game is probably not for me.
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02-23-2015 , 04:30 PM
by raising flop you leave next to nothing left in his range that you beat, better to call flop and get to play turn and river in position against a wider and weaker range
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02-23-2015 , 05:34 PM
If you aren't shoving turn then you should be foolding here

You don't beat enough of BBs range to call river asplayed also.

Quote:
The river is a clear fold. We beat nothing.
We beat most of nut flush draw, so little but not nothing.

Flop play can swing any way you want.
Muck because its a 4 way flop
Call because you ahve some equity - the two Ks are especially nice, everything else leaves you wondering.
Raise because UTG might just be cbetting widish or may have AA.
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02-23-2015 , 05:50 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by chav
You guys fold overpair KK on a FD missed flop getting almost 3:1?
I admit i am a NL player but this looks wrong to me.
If this is correct fold then this game is probably not for me.
reminded me of the site http://lifewithfacecards.tumblr.com/

to be specific:

when a NLHE player sits at a PLO table




also, what everyone else said.
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02-24-2015 , 04:44 AM
You should see what O8 players do when they sit at a PLO table.
All jokes aside tho i think i made a mistake in the hand as stated but thought it was not 3bettinng it pre.The rest is whatever i do have the second nut FD and might be ahead but i guess ur right i should have flatted flop anyways.
Thx for the input much appreciated
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02-24-2015 , 12:35 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Alienatu
reminded me of the site http://lifewithfacecards.tumblr.com/

to be specific:

when a NLHE player sits at a PLO table




also, what everyone else said.
what a gif
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02-24-2015 , 01:18 PM
What do you honestly think his range is here on the river that allows you to make this call?
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02-27-2015 , 09:46 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Polsk33
What do you honestly think his range is here on the river that allows you to make this call?
im also keen to hear this...you only catch his bluff here less than a quarter of the time its a clear fold
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