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11-29-2023 , 06:05 AM

DumbosTrunk

Verified Coach PLO5

Join Date: Apr 2017 Posts: 7,473

Hi all,

We open KJ755ds on the fish's straddle from MP (wide, but I wanted to get involved with straddle) and go four ways to:

($80): K73r. We bet $35, only fish calls.

Turn ($150): K bringing bdfd. X, hero $65, he calls. Putting him on Kx here once he calls the turn.

River ($280): Tr. He donks $100. I didn't know how to interpret this bet - as a blocker bet or a "please call" value bet with KT. He has another $180 behind. For me it's between call and fold here but part of me briefly considered value raising.

Thanks,
DT

Last edited by DumbosTrunk; 11-29-2023 at 06:16 AM.

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11-29-2023 , 04:09 PM

hazelasty

journeyman

Join Date: Jun 2011 Posts: 251

Preflop isn't close it is pure fold. The straddle tightens up preflop ranges, this hand wouldn't be raise from BU so raising it from MP is attrotious play.
I would go bigger on the turn, half pot is ok. OTR call button.

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11-30-2023 , 01:23 AM

crimsonchin

old hand

Join Date: Dec 2008 Posts: 1,947

This open is insane. I’m not one that’s gonna be like oh the solver says it’s a fold by .1 this is bad. But this is torching money, even from the button this would be more a fold than an open. Even vs a whale.

If you wanna get involved in more pots in these types of situations look to limp some
more hands that do well in a mumtieway/implied odds situation.

Not gonna comment on post because these spots should not happen as a pro player.

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11-30-2023 , 01:01 PM

Rockyfour

centurion

Join Date: Dec 2021 Posts: 154

It's a clear raise on the river. Also with your small turn sizing he has a lot more than Kx in his range. If you bet big and he called then he's going to have a lot of Kx but you bet small so his range is kinda wide. Once he donks 30% river he is really repping hands worse than K10 so you have a clear value raise.

Also the people saying this isn't an open preflop are technically right but in my opinion it is fine as I play junky hands against fish/whales quite frequently and have a very high win rate.

In general though I would fold that hand preflop from every position except the button.

Last edited by Rockyfour; 11-30-2023 at 01:08 PM.

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11-30-2023 , 03:53 PM

monikrazy

Carpal \'Tunnel

Join Date: Sep 2009 Posts: 28,073

Pre is torching for sure. I would often check the turn and call or xr depending on sizing.

River is a call based on your read villain has kx, but even then i think its close vs. Raise.

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12-05-2023 , 11:06 AM

Keruli

adept

Join Date: Jul 2009 Posts: 774

why would you fold the nut fullhouse on the turn?

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12-05-2023 , 06:15 PM

pokerfan655

old hand

Join Date: Jun 2012 Posts: 1,423

I would think the turn bet should be bigger - he only calls with Kx+ so a lot of value you get here is against second/third best hands. I don't see folding the river - I think it's either a call vs raise. It's really a factor of how these games play - would think this sizing is leaning towards weaker value hands but I don't know how they interpret a raise. Think I default raise here as it's 5 card with a ton of combos and expect them to make more mistakes then me.

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12-06-2023 , 02:00 AM

OmahaDonk

Pooh-Bah

Join Date: Apr 2011 Posts: 5,046

Call river, expect to lose frequently.

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