Suppose you have AA59 on 457 board, make a bad cbet into three people, get called by 2 players. 8 on turn (4578). You check, one guy shoves, and it folds around to you. You're always dead here right? How good do your pot odds have to be for you to make the AA + gutter calldown? I felt like the 5:1 I was getting wasn't good enough but I called it off anyway and felt dumb. What if I got 7:1? 10:1?

Do you have any flush draws? Otherwise, you have 4 outs (if you are ignoring possible top set draws that are beat if you really think he has the straight now, likewise with catching two pair) and 44 cards left, so 4/44 is 1/11, so you need raw pot odds of 11 to 1, and then if you think he will call any of your bets if you make a draw that beats him, you can take those implied odds into account, and then if you think you might be tying, you have to discount/negate some of that.

With flush draws, much prettier.

The outs I listed are b/c you said gutshot - and they are largely negated in that if the guy has the straight, he is already holding some, and then you at best split.

FYI, his name is The Cheat, he cheats at stuff.

http://images.google.com/images?hl=e...h+Images&gbv=2

He even has his own Guitar, called the Cheatar.



I have him because it's hilarious when someone says "Hi cheat" at the table then someone else asks who is cheating. After 6 years of that, I still find it funny.

brag/beat - after playing online and live nlh for 2 years i win the biggest 3 pots of my life, all at pot limit omaha after playing it for just over a month. meh, maybe i just suck at holdem, but ill take it

well i figure if he has 69 we're drawing to at most 3 outs to chop, but sometimes villain can jam with a set or two pair (a bad bluff if it's called around and we each get good pot odds). so given we need ridic. good odds to call if he has the straight but we still have a bluff catcher + suckout outs if he has a set or two pair, i'm looking for ideas on a weighted distribution and resulting necessary pot odds

no flush draw, either

edit: we're also assuming this is a random player who hasn't done anything notable, but it's likely he is not insane.

edit2: this is also assuming that we don't have anything else behind beyond what we need to call. things get a bit trickier if we still would have to call off more on the river if we hit our gutter/set/2 pair.

<sighs> my girlfriend went hysterical to the point of tears when I told her I bought a condo in a casino. So much for my room service plan.

Hysterical in a good or bad way? I don't see what the big deal is?

her complaints off teh top of my head include

"I wanted to furnish our home."
"I want a bigger kitchen. it doesn't even have an island." <<== she incidentally can't even make lasgna right.
"it's not even 2000 sqft, it's smaller than where we're living now."
"what about our kids? we're not going to raise them in a casino."

And various other gems I can't quite remember.

tell her it's just a temporary adventure, maybe 6 months, maybe a year, and that it's really just a timely real-estate investment that may eventually make an interesting vacation home.

I think that "temporary" and "adventure" are the key words, though.


also: wtf were you thinking buying a condo in a casino without at least mentioning it casually to your significant other?

Party Poker $400 Pot Limit Omaha Hi - 6 players
The Official 2+2 Hand Converter Powered By DeucesCracked.com

BB: $729.08
Hero (UTG): $382.00
MP: $783.12
CO: $635.00
BTN: $350.27
SB: $384.00

Pre Flop: Hero is UTG with 5 6 4 7
Hero raises to $14, 2 folds, BTN raises to $24, 1 fold, BB calls $20, Hero calls $10

Flop: ($74.00) 9 8 4 (3 players)
BB checks, Hero checks, BTN bets $25, BB folds, Hero raises to $146, BTN calls $121

Turn: ($366.00) A (2 players)
Hero checks, BTN checks

River: ($366.00) 8 (2 players)
Hero bets $212 all in, BTN calls $180.27 all in




That was like the sickest hand ever...

What do you think?

All I see is the absolutely disgusting rake.

lol, indeed, there must be sth wrong with the converter or my pto...

also2: the use of house-size as a primary rubric for evaluating quality of life is itself suggestive of a worldview that may, long-term, pose some problems to your girlfriend's overall happiness and satisfaction, and could perhaps be reconsidered.

yea thats a converter prob with party i believe because the software will count uncalled bets part of the pot. and i guess u got pretty much owned there

or maybe villain thought "oh, red card, flush, nice"

Superuser obv

Yay, made a pretty big score live today. Bought in for 4000 in a dealer's choice game and quit with 15000.

I kinda wonder about my very last hand. 15000 is way more than I am comfortable with (= $2000 USD, I usually play $1/2 online). There were 3 people at the table covering me, so in NLHE I open folded JJ from UTG. I don't know if that was like the most ******ed thing ever, but I felt so uncomfortable playing so I just convinced myself to fold and be happy.

pretty ******ed, but probably your best option if you're playing scared money.

All PLO200



[x] < $1 hand
[x] play more

cashed out 10k, decided to move back to plo200 and rebuild till i was properly rolled for 2-4 again. Well after a 25 buy in downswong it looks like I am barely rolled for 1-2 now. **** YOU FULL TILT. First time in 4 months I cash out from full tilt, and immediately after I get doomswitch. Also I am running 5k below equity so technically im a break even player?

You're doing it wrong.


The check boxes, I mean. The poker looks fine.

man im such a failure.

I was being positively ******ed. It just seems so natural for me to live in a casino it didn't even occur to me there would be an issue.

It is the Mgm sig your moving to right Grizy? The condos there aren't even in the casino. They are quite quiet and being there you'd never know you were in LV, except for looking out of the window!
If you haven't signed anything yet, you could always live where every other poker player does in the panorama towers.

I can't see this. You could play it very sub-optimally (basically set-mine or play small pots) to reduce variance and it's still much more profitable than folding.