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07-19-2012 , 08:28 PM
zach, i 2nd brl that turn. awesome card to 2nd brl. as played i like your river play. id make it 520 btw.

i took a big shot today... not sure what i should do because i was really underolled. i had 40k roll and playing for 50%, so if i lose this hand its like 50% of my online roll. if i was rolled id call or shove. given i was sooo underolled, fold is ok to reduce variance? or close eyes and pray?

3bettor is reason im at table, 57/24 3bet 20%. CO is ilari, BTN and SB are 50/100-25/50 regs taking a shot.

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PL Omaha $400(BB) Replayer
SB ($32,560)
BB ($26,246)
Hero ($36,805)
UTG+1 ($36,485)
CO ($57,088)
BTN ($66,757)

Hero antes $80
UTG+1 antes $80
CO antes $80
BTN antes $80
SB antes $80
BB antes $80

Dealt to Hero A Q 5 T

Hero raises to $1,480, fold, CO calls $1,480, BTN calls $1,480, SB calls $1,280, BB raises to $9,360, hero ?
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07-20-2012 , 08:19 AM
Don't take 2bi shots?
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07-20-2012 , 09:55 AM
I'm calling. You have a good multiway hand, so you wouldnt mind if they others come in behind you. And if you call and somebody behind you decides to get it in, its usually not that bad 3 or 4ways.
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07-20-2012 , 10:12 AM
whilst the 3bettor might be the reason youre at the table, i dont think youre making much money either from flatting and having the most likely scenario be everyone else calls, bb jams bunch of flops, or from 4betting and maybe being around breakeven vs his range assuming everyone else gets out of the way. if i did decide not to fold i think 4b>>>call.
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07-28-2012 , 05:15 PM
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Originally Posted by joeri
I'm calling. You have a good multiway hand, so you wouldnt mind if they others come in behind you. And if you call and somebody behind you decides to get it in, its usually not that bad 3 or 4ways.
thx for your answer, but actually i asked another thing.

i know call is the best play if we look at this at a poker hand or at big blinds. im calling all day this hand. but that was half of my roll at table and my stack rep a huge part of my life roll.

given this fact, you still call in this spot?

hand i just played, utg is a whale 70/50 3b 25%, mp is a reg, btn is a fish 60/30 0% 3bet.

std shove?

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Hero ($880)
BB ($1,000)
UTG ($1,468)
UTG+1 ($692)
CO ($2,824)
BTN ($616)

Dealt to Hero A 3 A 3

UTG raises to $30, UTG+1 calls $30, fold, BTN calls $30, Hero raises to $160, fold, UTG calls $130, UTG+1 calls $130, BTN calls $130

FLOP ($650) 9 6 2

Hero bets $647, UTG raises to $1,308 (AI), UTG+1 folds, BTN folds, Hero calls $73 (AI)

TURN ($2,090) 9 6 2 9

RIVER ($2,090) 9 6 2 9 T

Hero shows A 3 A 3
(Pre 73%, Flop 14.0%, Turn 12.5%)

UTG shows 2 6 2 3
(Pre 27%, Flop 86.0%, Turn 87.5%)

UTG wins $2,087
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07-28-2012 , 07:21 PM
With 3 players behind i think it's a mandatory check...
Villains being whale/fish i think hurt us instead of helping us because if UTG was facing your shove and he had a naked T hi flush draw he might think " **** i can't call, i have 2 players behind" and that's a big gain for you when people fold so much equity. But in this situation where a whale will just say " lol, i have a fd, call" , it will actually hurts your eq multiway a lot.

I think your plan must be stick it in vs 1 player but get away if 2 or more players get it in... As played, results would be probably the same, but i think flop check and decide is superior
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07-29-2012 , 04:09 AM
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Originally Posted by urubu111
i took a big shot today... not sure what i should do because i was really underolled. i had 40k roll and playing for 50%, so if i lose this hand its like 50% of my online roll. if i was rolled id call or shove. given i was sooo underolled, fold is ok to reduce variance? or close eyes and pray?
urubu the question you are asking is should i gamble with half of my Roll (this hand) or not and only you can answer this not others.
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07-29-2012 , 04:25 AM
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Originally Posted by urubu111
thx for your answer, but actually i asked another thing.

i know call is the best play if we look at this at a poker hand or at big blinds. im calling all day this hand. but that was half of my roll at table and my stack rep a huge part of my life roll.

given this fact, you still call in this spot?

hand i just played, utg is a whale 70/50 3b 25%, mp is a reg, btn is a fish 60/30 0% 3bet.

std shove?

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PL Omaha $10(BB) Replayer
Hero ($880)
BB ($1,000)
UTG ($1,468)
UTG+1 ($692)
CO ($2,824)
BTN ($616)

Dealt to Hero A 3 A 3

UTG raises to $30, UTG+1 calls $30, fold, BTN calls $30, Hero raises to $160, fold, UTG calls $130, UTG+1 calls $130, BTN calls $130

FLOP ($650) 9 6 2

Hero bets $647, UTG raises to $1,308 (AI), UTG+1 folds, BTN folds, Hero calls $73 (AI)

TURN ($2,090) 9 6 2 9

RIVER ($2,090) 9 6 2 9 T

Hero shows A 3 A 3
(Pre 73%, Flop 14.0%, Turn 12.5%)

UTG shows 2 6 2 3
(Pre 27%, Flop 86.0%, Turn 87.5%)

UTG wins $2,087
In that case i fold fast and run with the moneys while cursing myself for being such a fool
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07-29-2012 , 05:45 AM
Is this a close spot between a call and a fold, knowing that stick will get it in lighter then most other regs (if i call)?

PokerStars Hand #83995285517: Omaha Pot Limit ($50/$100 USD) - 2012/07/29 5:40:32 ET
Table 'Noel III' 6-max Seat #5 is the button
Seat 1: hila12 ($14085 in chips)
Seat 2: M.O.P. ($2800 in chips)
Seat 3: longerpig ($13362.50 in chips)
Seat 4: L0ve2playU ($23116.50 in chips)
Seat 5: St1ckman ($10000 in chips)
Seat 6: azn_baller3 ($12403.35 in chips)
azn_baller3: posts small blind $50
hila12: posts big blind $100
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to L0ve2playU [Jc 8d 8c Jd]
M.O.P.: raises $150 to $250
longerpig: folds
L0ve2playU: calls $250
St1ckman: raises $900 to $1150
azn_baller3: folds
hila12: folds
M.O.P.: raises $1650 to $2800 and is all-in
L0ve2playU: folds
St1ckman: calls $1650
*** FLOP *** [6h 6c Ts]
*** TURN *** [6h 6c Ts] [9c]
*** RIVER *** [6h 6c Ts 9c] [2c]
*** SHOW DOWN ***
M.O.P.: shows [As 4d Ac 5h] (two pair, Aces and Sixes)
St1ckman: shows [Th Qc 4c Ah] (a flush, Queen high)
St1ckman collected $5995 from pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot $6000 | Rake $5
Board [6h 6c Ts 9c 2c]
Seat 1: hila12 (big blind) folded before Flop
Seat 2: M.O.P. showed [As 4d Ac 5h] and lost with two pair, Aces and Sixes
Seat 3: longerpig folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 4: L0ve2playU folded before Flop
Seat 5: St1ckman (button) showed [Th Qc 4c Ah] and won ($5995) with a flush, Queen high
Seat 6: azn_baller3 (small blind) folded before Flop
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07-29-2012 , 07:39 AM
thoughts on shoving it? Give stickman a range-you know MOP has aa, a rundowns and good kings and sticky never has aa. I think the JJ88 will be dominating a bunch of his range-but still not sure what the right play is.

Im sure theres ways you can justify calling-like odds of hitting flop hard enough to get in + being an easy decision with your hand + a very good chance of seeing the turn also.


Id fold in your situation urubu.
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07-29-2012 , 10:04 AM
LOl Urubu gambling for half of your roll cant be good since the PRF equities still to close in this game. And in fact u know how to win money in other spots and situations i dont really understand why u join so expensive game to play with only 1 person , considering im a gamler myself.
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07-29-2012 , 11:27 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by joeri
Is this a close spot between a call and a fold, knowing that stick will get it in lighter then most other regs (if i call)?
I think it's a fold unless st1ck is 3betting a short stack way too light. You probably have ~1/3 equity in the main pot but I don't think you have ~50% vs. st1ck in the side pot even factoring in dead cards from MOP.
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07-31-2012 , 03:58 PM
all opp play shortstack well 10-11% 3b

$3/$6 Pot Limit Omaha Hi
6 Players
Hand Conversion Powered by weaktight.com

Stacks:
UTG ($1,625.52) 271bb
UTG+1 ($600) 100bb
doorbread (CO) ($600) 100bb
BTN ($140.14) 23bb
SB ($120) 20bb
BB ($111) 19bb

Pre-Flop: ($9, 6 players) doorbread is CO 8 6 8 6
2 folds, doorbread ($600)?
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07-31-2012 , 04:56 PM
mini raise
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07-31-2012 , 05:10 PM
from 8 game:

exclusive cant be raising that light with biatch being short and me having midstack oop etc.......

what do you do in this spot with biatch left to act behind? clear fold? or gamble hoping exclusive has dry overpair?

PokerStars Hand #84109013564: 8-Game (Omaha Pot Limit, $100/$200 USD) - 2012/07/31 22:55:54 EET [2012/07/31 15:55:54 ET]
Table 'Asplinda IV' 6-max Seat #1 is the button
Seat 1: BiatchPeople ($6395 in chips)
Seat 2: Exclusive ($20347.50 in chips)
Seat 3: LuckyGump ($31057.50 in chips)
Seat 5: CHUFTY ($21962.40 in chips)
Seat 6: hotmark777 ($14302.38 in chips)
Exclusive: posts small blind $100
LuckyGump: posts big blind $200
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to hotmark777 [7h As 4s 5h]
CHUFTY: folds
hotmark777: raises $200 to $400
BiatchPeople: calls $400
Exclusive: raises $1400 to $1800
LuckyGump: folds
hotmark777: calls $1400
madmags4 joins the table at seat #4
BiatchPeople: calls $1400
*** FLOP *** [Jd 4d 6s]
Exclusive: bets $4600
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08-01-2012 , 01:47 AM
call/call unless exclusive shoves flush turn? I'd fold if biatch had normal stack...
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08-01-2012 , 03:12 AM
Really? This seems like a flop fold to me...
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08-03-2012 , 12:36 AM
PokerStars Hand #84213916740: 8-Game (Omaha Pot Limit, $25/$50 USD) - 2012/08/03 7:29:29 EET [2012/08/03 0:29:29 ET]
Table 'Newtonia IV' 6-max Seat #1 is the button
Seat 1: lb6121 ($14827.50 in chips)
Seat 2: SleepvsMe ($6464.50 in chips)
Seat 3: hotmark777 ($10589.50 in chips)
Seat 4: Genius28 ($7964 in chips)
Seat 5: joseph2 ($2308.50 in chips)
Seat 6: SonicJaxx ($4732.50 in chips)
SleepvsMe: posts small blind $25
hotmark777: posts big blind $50
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to hotmark777 [Td 8c 6h 6s]
Genius28: folds
joseph2: calls $50
SonicJaxx: folds
lb6121: raises $50 to $100
SleepvsMe: calls $75
hotmark777: calls $50
joseph2: calls $50
*** FLOP *** [9s 4h Ac]
SleepvsMe: checks
hotmark777: checks
joseph2: checks
lb6121: checks
*** TURN *** [9s 4h Ac] [6d]
SleepvsMe: bets $325
hotmark777: raises $625 to $950
joseph2: folds
lb6121: folds
SleepvsMe: raises $1605 to $2555
hotmark777: calls $1605
*** RIVER *** [9s 4h Ac 6d] [9c]
SleepvsMe: bets $3809.50 and is all-in
hotmark777: folds [Td 8c 6h 6s]
Uncalled bet ($3809.50) returned to SleepvsMe
SleepvsMe collected $5507 from pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot $5510 | Rake $3
Board [9s 4h Ac 6d 9c]
Seat 1: lb6121 (button) folded on the Turn
Seat 2: SleepvsMe (small blind) collected ($5507)
Seat 3: hotmark777 (big blind) folded on the River
Seat 4: Genius28 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 5: joseph2 folded on the Turn
Seat 6: SonicJaxx folded before Flop (didn't bet)

Fold to turn three bet? easy fold on river? he did run a big bluff on me earlier but i dont see how here there are too many bluffs in his range
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08-03-2012 , 12:58 AM
Initial questions, what is his vpip etc...

But ultimately this is a spot where you gotta just know- is this guy f-ing with me?

(if you plan to fold a 9 riv I think you def gotta fold turn)
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08-03-2012 , 04:55 AM
578 is a 40/60 here, so if he has any fold equity I like the play with that
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08-04-2012 , 08:26 PM
get it in on turn so he cant think you're weak and barrel any river
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08-05-2012 , 10:23 AM
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Originally Posted by K_2
get it in on turn so he cant think you're weak and barrel any river
raised with two players behind me on a not too drawy flop...... u think he is mjking same play with akqj or w?
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08-05-2012 , 12:05 PM
hes repping 99 ott, so quads?
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08-06-2012 , 11:50 AM
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OnGame - $5 PL Hi (6 max) - Omaha Hi - 5 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

UTG: $351.95
CO: $155.00
Hero (BTN): $593.50
SB: $505.00
BB: $648.50

SB posts SB $5.00, BB posts BB $5.00

Pre Flop: (pot: $10.00) Hero has Q J 3 K

UTG raises to $10.00, fold, Hero calls $10.00, fold, BB calls $5.00

Flop: ($35.00, 3 players) J 2 T
BB bets $25.00, UTG calls $25.00, Hero calls $25.00

Turn: ($110.00, 3 players) Q
BB bets $90.00, fold, fold

BB wins $107.00
UTG 26/20 (54 hands) seems regish
BB 36/19 (42 hands)

I'm new on this room, dont have much infos.

Happy to get any opinion on each street.
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08-06-2012 , 02:28 PM
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Originally Posted by Toyka
UTG 26/20 (54 hands) seems regish
BB 36/19 (42 hands)

I'm new on this room, dont have much infos.

Happy to get any opinion on each street.

Pree, ok

Flopp, ok

Turn, come over the top for balance imo

Think he will b/f both AA/KKxx K9xx 89xx+fd KKxx+fd AAxx+fd with this stacks and if he has AKxx we obv have *ok* equity. When we run in to the AKxx+fd it's just a headshaker.
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