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01-31-2012 , 07:57 PM

#2976

K_2

Carpal \'Tunnel

Join Date: Dec 2010 Posts: 19,638

flop sizing makes you jam here, sorry

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01-31-2012 , 08:34 PM

#2977

MATT111

Carpal \'Tunnel

Join Date: Jun 2005 Posts: 6,008

Quote:

Originally Posted by K_2

flop sizing makes you jam here, sorry

I usually wouldnt size flop like this. But I think its best vs a fish. I dont think turn will be a problem oftentimes.

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01-31-2012 , 08:53 PM

#2978

2+2=5

Pooh-Bah

Join Date: Sep 2008 Posts: 3,539

pretty terrible card. i think i'd check.

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01-31-2012 , 10:58 PM

#2979

K_2

Carpal \'Tunnel

Join Date: Dec 2010 Posts: 19,638

id check too if i sized my flop raise around $65,

but normally id let villan keep the lead and jc flop, revaluate trn kinda thingamagiga

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01-31-2012 , 11:27 PM

#2980

justfold

grinder

Join Date: Dec 2007 Posts: 513

guy was playing pretty loose/ lil fishy IIRC

Poker Stars, $2/$4 Pot Limit Omaha Cash, 6 Players
Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite. View Hand #11756152

Hero (CO): $420.20 (105.1 bb)
BTN: $1,324.65 (331.2 bb)
SB: $389.10 (97.3 bb)
BB: $410 (102.5 bb)
UTG: $160 (40 bb)
MP: $723.45 (180.9 bb)

Preflop: Hero is CO with 6

UTG folds, MP raises to $12, Hero calls $12, 3 folds

Flop: ($30) 9

(2 players)
MP checks, Hero checks

Turn: ($30) K

(2 players)
MP bets $16, Hero raises to $48, MP calls $32

River: ($126) A

(2 players)
MP checks, Hero bets $88, MP raises to $387, Hero folds

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this is prob std just not that sure

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02-01-2012 , 02:30 PM

#2981

Beekie

newbie

Join Date: Sep 2010 Posts: 21

wow, just wow

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02-01-2012 , 02:47 PM

#2982

HustlerLA

veteran

Join Date: May 2007 Posts: 3,079

Quote:

Originally Posted by justfold

guy was playing pretty loose/ lil fishy IIRC

UTG folds, MP raises to $12, Hero calls $12, 3 folds

Flop: ($30) 9

(2 players)
MP checks, Hero checks

Turn: ($30) K

(2 players)
MP bets $16, Hero raises to $48, MP calls $32

River: ($126) A

(2 players)
MP checks, Hero bets $88, MP raises to $387, Hero folds

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this is prob std just not that sure

Yuck I guess fold is best vs someone a lil fishy (as long as they dont play A9 weirdly like this). Id prob call just assuming i have to have some calling range and might as well use this.

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02-01-2012 , 11:34 PM

#2983

oneforme

journeyman

Join Date: Mar 2008 Posts: 347

Hustler: I think thats a pretty bad argument considering how rare these spots are, especially against a fishy opponent. I would fold.

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02-02-2012 , 12:46 AM

#2984

ISILDRppN

grinder

Join Date: Dec 2011 Posts: 600

Std 250bb play?

Poker Stars, $2/$4, $0.80 ante Pot Limit Omaha Cash, 6 Players
Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite. View Hand #11766672

Hero (SB): $962.93 (240.7 bb)
BB: $1,047.60 (261.9 bb)
UTG: $1,524.74 (381.2 bb)
MP: $1,901.61 (475.4 bb)
CO: $1,230.36 (307.6 bb)
BTN: $687.88 (172 bb)

Preflop: Hero is SB with J

UTG raises to $16, MP folds, CO calls $16, BTN folds, Hero raises to $72.80, BB folds, UTG calls $56.80, CO calls $56.80

Flop: ($227.20) J

(3 players)
Hero bets $112.20, UTG raises to $561, CO folds, Hero raises to $889.33, UTG calls $328.33

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02-02-2012 , 01:31 AM

#2985

plorrr

enthusiast

Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 66

Quote:

Originally Posted by ISILDRppN

Std 250bb play?

UTG raises to $16, MP folds, CO calls $16, BTN folds, Hero raises to $72.80, BB folds, UTG calls $56.80, CO calls $56.80

Flop: ($227.20) J

(3 players)
Hero bets $112.20, UTG raises to $561, CO folds, Hero raises to $889.33, UTG calls $328.33

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Standard. Vs. wrap, 2 pairs draw

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02-02-2012 , 07:03 AM

#2986

MadScientist

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Join Date: Jan 2006 Posts: 2,795

Grabbed by Holdem Manager
PL Omaha $4(BB)
SB ($182)
Hero ($1,561)
UTG ($400)
CO ($774)
BTN ($516)

Dealt to Hero Q

fold, fold, BTN raises to $8, fold, Hero calls $4

FLOP ($18) K

Hero bets $18, BTN calls $18

TURN ($54) K

Hero bets $54, BTN calls $54

RIVER ($162) K

7 Q 3

[color=red]Hero bets $108, BTN raises to $436 (AI), Hero ?

Standard tag, steals 42%.

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02-02-2012 , 10:20 AM

#2987

Doorbread

Carpal \'Tunnel

Join Date: Jul 2008 Posts: 9,750

too thin otr

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02-02-2012 , 11:38 AM

#2988

MauriceSch

old hand

Join Date: Jul 2007 Posts: 1,660

Don't like betting river. As played, you're toast.

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02-02-2012 , 05:55 PM

#2989

K_2

Carpal \'Tunnel

Join Date: Dec 2010 Posts: 19,638

genius, induced river raise for value, love it

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02-02-2012 , 07:17 PM

#2990

MadScientist

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Join Date: Jan 2006 Posts: 2,795

After potting flop and turn and def having bluffs when I get to the riv, I think I have to bet a lot of non nut flushes.

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02-02-2012 , 09:59 PM

#2991

K_2

Carpal \'Tunnel

Join Date: Dec 2010 Posts: 19,638

that being said im c/c allot of bets otr, never c/r and never b/f

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02-03-2012 , 01:32 AM

#2992

GotBluffing

centurion

Join Date: Feb 2009 Posts: 138

Grabbed by Holdem Manager
PL Omaha $6(BB) Replayer
SB ($1,178)
BB ($1,013)
UTG ($333)
UTG+1 ($358)
CO ($400)
Hero ($600)

Dealt to Hero Q

fold, fold, fold, Hero raises to $18, SB raises to $60, fold, Hero raises to $186, SB calls $126

FLOP ($378) Q

SB bets $375, Hero?

Can we find a fold here? Villain is a winning regular, his 3bet is 10% here.

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02-03-2012 , 07:26 AM

#2993

grinder10

aka Odd_Oddsen

Join Date: Sep 2010 Posts: 428

we need ~33% vs range to BE.

board: QcJh9h
Hand Equity Wins Ties
Qd3sAdKs 31.02% 1,684,624 416,095
10% !AA 68.98% 4,000,081 416,095

We only have 31%, but I think its really close.
Villain is prolly check-folding some % (4567ss, 5678ss hands = ~0.5% of his range...?)
Which makes our equity vs villains jaming range sliiiightly less.
But I assume villain also checks the top top of his range (KThh, QJhh,T8hh....? = ~0.5% of his range..?) Which should make our equity better vs his jamming range

sum it up and we prolly have around ~31%, I believe its a really close fold.

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02-03-2012 , 07:32 AM

#2994

MadScientist

veteran

Join Date: Jan 2006 Posts: 2,795

With the gutter I don't think you can fold. Get it in.

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02-03-2012 , 07:45 AM

#2995

Doorbread

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Join Date: Jul 2008 Posts: 9,750

Quote:

Originally Posted by Odd_Oddsen

this contains many combos of aa?

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02-03-2012 , 07:54 AM

#2996

grinder10

aka Odd_Oddsen

Join Date: Sep 2010 Posts: 428

Quote:

Originally Posted by Doorbread

this contains many combos of aa?

U mean that this syntax:"10% !AA" means top10% including all AA**?
I believe it means top 10% removing every AAxx combos.

Or you mean that SB have AAxx in his range and its wrong for me to be removing them from his range in the analysis...?

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02-03-2012 , 07:58 AM

#2997

Doorbread

Carpal \'Tunnel

Join Date: Jul 2008 Posts: 9,750

nah i was asking if it included any aa in there

thanks for that

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02-03-2012 , 11:06 AM

#2998

Lasaronen

journeyman

Join Date: Jun 2009 Posts: 368

[hand_history]Poker Stars, $3/$6 Pot Limit Omaha Cash, 2 Players
Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite. View Hand #11780972

Hero (BB): $1,947.91 (324.7 bb)
SB: $1,605.94 (267.7 bb)

Preflop: Hero is BB with A

SB raises to $14.28, Hero raises to $42.84, SB raises to $128.52, Hero raises to $385.56, SB calls $257.04

Flop: ($771.12) 6

(2 players)

[hand_history]Poker Stars, $3/$6 Pot Limit Omaha Cash, 2 Players
Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite. View Hand #11780982

Hero (BB): $1,749.57 (291.6 bb)
SB: $1,935.29 (322.5 bb)

Preflop: Hero is BB with A

SB raises to $14.28, Hero raises to $42.84, SB raises to $128.52, Hero raises to $385.56, SB calls $257.04

Flop: ($771.12) 3

(2 players)

Bet/get it in w/ both hands? Villain hates to fold, and might be tilting slightly.