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09-25-2011 , 10:42 PM
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Originally Posted by K_2
got go for c/r/f trn..u have a blocker so u can rep, but bords too wet to semi bluf bet effectively against most hands that call the flop..go for the c/r/f
too wet to bluff so you... bluff? sorry just a bit confused by your logic
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09-25-2011 , 10:47 PM
give him a chance to bet..c/r trn b riv is good bluf line, and if u close draw then well disguised imo..barrelling oop here is auto calldown
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09-26-2011 , 12:00 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by K_2
give him a chance to bet..c/r trn b riv is good bluf line, and if u close draw then well disguised imo..barrelling oop here is auto calldown
How do you plan to c/r turn and bet river with like 1.6 pot sized bets left?
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09-26-2011 , 12:12 AM
b/f turn is a bad option imo. c/c turn is worse
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09-26-2011 , 01:19 AM
so hard to know whats best the db; c/f seems fine, bet sometimes if u feel him folding
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09-26-2011 , 09:00 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by 2+2=5
should i 3bet here? what to do on the flop? ty

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SB ($489)
Hero ($404)
UTG ($746)
CO ($793)
BTN ($798)

Dealt to Hero 6 6 Q Q

UTG raises to $14, CO calls $14, fold, fold, Hero raises to $58, UTG calls $44, CO calls $44

FLOP ($176) T 3 9

Hero
As already mentioned don't 3bet. You are going to be OOP with two players behind you which sucks when you don't spike a set.. As played c/f flop.
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09-26-2011 , 10:43 AM
How do I maximize value on river (assuming I have the best hand)?

Do we check hoping villain bluffs with a missed braodway draw?
Do we check hoping villain bets with a like the J-high flush?
Or do we just bet it ourselfs hoping villain hero calls?

Do we play it differently against regs and fish?

This might be very simple but I would appreciate your thoughts nonetheless.


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    BB: $347.55 (69.5 bb)
    MP: $570 (114 bb)
    CO: $713 (142.6 bb)
    BTN: $2,239.75 (448 bb)
    Hero (SB): $1,057.50 (211.5 bb)

    Preflop: Hero is SB with J T A K
    MP raises to $10, 2 folds, Hero raises to $35, BB folds, MP calls $25

    Flop: ($75) 6 K Q (2 players)
    Hero bets $50, MP calls $50

    Turn: ($175) 2 (2 players)
    Hero bets $140, MP calls $140

    River: ($455) 3 (2 players)
    Hero?

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    09-26-2011 , 10:57 AM
    Obviously slightly villain dependant, but as a standard I'd bet.
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    09-26-2011 , 12:10 PM
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Doorbread
    main villain in the hand is 36/21/9 and is a solid reg wtf do i do on the turn?



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    CO: $908.75 (181.8 bb)
    BTN: $1,240.50 (248.1 bb)
    SB: $1,840.30 (368.1 bb)
    BB: $500 (100 bb)
    Hero (MP): $1,008 (201.6 bb)

    Preflop: Hero is MP with 6 7 7 9
    Hero raises to $15, CO calls $15, BTN raises to $70, 2 folds, Hero calls $55, CO calls $55

    Flop: ($220) T 8 5 (3 players)
    Hero bets $140, CO folds, BTN calls $140

    Turn: ($500) Q (2 players)
    Hero
    i´d recommend c/r in this spot, because against large parts of his range you will have an enormous foldequity.
    Even if he snapcalls you´ve got at least 45 % against his range...

    bet/fold would therefore definitely be too weak imo.

    besides, i´d be interestet at which ongame skin you´re playing currently if the question is allowed
    (just because I´m atm looking for a less shady ongame skin )
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    09-26-2011 , 12:51 PM
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by HitmanDK
    As already mentioned don't 3bet. You are going to be OOP with two players behind you which sucks when you don't spike a set.. As played c/f flop.
    thank you
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    09-26-2011 , 12:54 PM
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by 2+2=5
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    PL Omaha $4(BB) Poker Stars
    SB ($400)
    Hero ($400)
    UTG ($498)
    UTG+1 ($733)
    CO ($765)
    BTN ($411)

    Dealt to Hero K K 5 5

    UTG calls $4, fold, fold, BTN raises to $18, fold, Hero raises to $60, fold, BTN calls $42

    FLOP ($126) T 6 J

    Hero bet/calls?
    im sorry. this might super std?
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    09-26-2011 , 02:00 PM
    Still really unsure of the spot I just posted Answer please pplz

    2+2, b/c
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    09-26-2011 , 02:52 PM
    Anyway not to lose all my chips here?

    Villain is a TAG, pretty much the only other good player at the table
    CO is a LP fish
    I have an image of a tricky, TAGgish player

    9-handed $2-$5

    SB
    BB
    UTG (Hero) $1080
    UTG1
    UTG2
    MP1
    MP2 (Villain) $1500
    CO $300
    BTN

    Preflop: Hero has K K 5 7

    Hero limps, 3 folds, Villain raises to $20, CO calls $20, 3 folds, Hero calls $15.

    (Hoping to limp, get a series of limpers, and call any raise)

    Flop: ($65) A K 8

    Hero checks, Villain bets $50, CO calls $50, Hero raises to $210, Villain calls, CO folds.

    (Hoping to check raise, as Villain is likely to cbet. After Villain calls and CO folds, I'm hoping that CO had an ace, and Villain doesn't have AA, as I expect him to 3-bet most of the time )

    Turn: ($535) 8

    Hero bets $300, Villain calls $300

    (Oh crap, he called. He might have AA. Or, he might have flopped 3 pair, or a stubborn A8 BB)

    (Tough spot. Villain

    River: ($1135) 9

    Hero goes all-in for $550, Villain calls.

    (Impossible to check-fold, so might as well jam)



    Villain shows A A 4 7
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    09-26-2011 , 03:57 PM
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by 888inside
    i´d recommend c/r in this spot, because against large parts of his range you will have an enormous foldequity.
    Even if he snapcalls you´ve got at least 45 % against his range...
    Not saying wheter c/r is bad or not but how can he ever be at least 45 % against a range that snap calls a c/shove?
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    09-26-2011 , 04:02 PM
    Doorbread, It's a gross spot and I'm a bit unsure also.

    With the 9 blocker I think I bet(/fold) and empty the clip on blank rivers, meaning cards that doesn't pair the board and isn't a cub.
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    09-26-2011 , 04:14 PM
    @phunkphish

    If villian is tight I think you can c/f river. I don't think he value bets ÁK, a flush or even A8 as your value range by the river looks AK and KK and he probably doesn't expect you to call a shove with AK so from villains perspective it looks like there is no value in betting A8 or a flush.

    I mean I know this sounds weak tight but I really think villains range for shoving river is air and aces (and the unlikely quads) and is pretty tough for him to have air by the river.
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    09-26-2011 , 05:39 PM
    is this normal?

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    SB ($226)
    BB ($400)
    UTG ($2,431)
    CO ($228)
    Hero ($400)

    Dealt to Hero J T 8 9

    UTG raises to $12, CO calls $12, Hero raises to $54, SB raises to $190, fold, fold, CO raises to $228 (AI), Hero raises to $400 (AI), SB calls $36.35 (AI)
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    09-26-2011 , 05:51 PM
    100 % normal vs. two half stacks.
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    09-26-2011 , 06:30 PM
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Doorbread
    Still really unsure of the spot I just posted Answer please pplz

    2+2, b/c
    I think flop I prefer c/c than leading

    turn I actually think is close.... If you think you can squeeze enough f/e I would just pot and get it in (because he doesn't have too many combos of J9 that don't ship flop), but c/f is fine vs people that are getting it in fairly wide here and view you as aggro/splashy

    Last edited by TGSM89; 09-26-2011 at 06:36 PM. Reason: grammar :)
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    09-26-2011 , 08:24 PM
    I seem to have some trouble in spots like these. Just started playing on the site, I think it was the same villain as yesterday where he limp/called CO, check/bumped my bet on AJ7r, check/called near pot on To turn putting FD out and check/called my riv jam with AA74, so AA is definitely in his limp/calling range here, but he does seem to open limp a lot both on the BTN and OOP.

    I'm assuming flop bet is standard, what do you do when faced with a raise and do you take other lines on the flop rather than Cbetting?

    Preflop: Hero is BTN with Ah Qh Td 6d
    MP calls $10, CO folds, Hero raises to $40, 2 folds, MP calls $30

    Flop: ($95) 2d Ac 7d (2 players)
    MP checks, Hero bets $55, MP raises to $257

    Edit: didn't convert the hand very well.
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    09-27-2011 , 02:51 PM
    Villain is a reg and we're trying to start a 6max table. I have been 3betting a lot recently and I think that villain is looking for a spot to 4bet me.

    Given that villain could be extra light because of matchflow, is there any merit to 5betting this hand?

      Poker Stars, $2/$4 Pot Limit Omaha Cash, 2 Players
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      SB: $400 (100 bb)
      Hero (BB): $592.50 (148.1 bb)

      Preflop: Hero is BB with 9 T J Q
      SB raises to $12, Hero raises to $36, SB raises to $108, Hero ???



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      09-27-2011 , 02:56 PM
      like how u played it. prefer calling the 4bet to 5betting just because flop play is so easy with this hand and thats where you'll gain your ev edge rather than shoving pre.
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      09-27-2011 , 03:00 PM
      well put imo
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      09-27-2011 , 06:51 PM
      MP and CO posted in this hand.
      button is an aggro loose reg, def 3betting here with all AAxx, tons of double suited junk and good rundowns. Not sure how to simulate this in ppt... plo noob here
      cold 4b or flat? why?



        Party, $2/$4 Pot Limit Omaha Cash, 6 Players
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        MP: $400 (100 bb)
        Hero (BB): $546 (136.5 bb)
        CO: $400 (100 bb)
        UTG: $486 (121.5 bb)
        SB: $400 (100 bb)
        BTN: $2,011.87 (503 bb)

        Preflop: Hero is BB with A J 6 K
        MP posts BB OOP, CO posts BB OOP, UTG folds, MP checks, CO raises to $18, BTN raises to $48, SB folds, [color="red"]Hero ?



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        09-27-2011 , 07:39 PM
        can u 4b/fold this?
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