Hello all,

I have more of a game "meta" question.

Maybe it is a coincidence, but I have noticed increasingly many players in PLO5 playing a lot of hands, like 60, 70, 80%, and then firing on almost any flop, especially flops that don't rate to hit anyone.

I have been overfolding these spots and am not sure how to adjust. Of course they tend to do this HU rather than multiway, but am not sure if I should just be patient or react somehow.

3 betting or 4 betting more pre creates a sort of a bingo, where no one will be a huge favorite. So I prefer to play postflop.

I don't think they have a specific read on me, that I don't get out of line, I think they noticed that applying constant pressure will win you many pots, and the few times you get raised are compensated by the times you actually smash the flop.

Stop overfolding. Start 3-betting and 4-betting pre for value a bit lighter.

Play nutted hands pre, in position, and fold on the flop unless you have a nut draw.
Don’t overcomplicate it

It’s like in baseball when a pitcher is throwing a 100mph, the batter just has to wait for his pitch and let them supply the power.

thank you both for the comments - however completely opposite they are :-)

i think waiting for nutted hands in position and continuing only when it hits is solid, but requires a lot of patience.

I think it also depends on the type of aggressor, i.e. the bet once and then retreat aggressor, or the bet 3 streets with air type.

With the first type, i think one needs to come up with a plan to not get exploited.

just as a note, i play PLO5 on ggpoker, and they play 5 handed. So this is very different from PLO4 live 9 handed, where you can "afford" to wait for good hands. Here you can't just wait for double suited rundowns or AA and broadway cards

It's harder to play in these game type especially 5 card. Just folding and being extra patient for top 5 percent hands and going to battle with them is best option imo.

Just read post above mine and think go wider to top 10 percent hands.

This is what I do in nlhe vs both player types:
The "cbet - give up turn guy": x/r bluff more on flop, probe bluff more on river. X/r more merged for value and slowplay less on flop. Don't overfold since you are more likely to see the full board.

The 3 barrel monkey: These differ in how they compose their ranges, with some overbluffing and not value betting enough, others betting too merged etc. But in general if their cbet % is too high on all streets, we should imo slightly overfold flop, planning to call down turn and river more often than normal since they will struggle to have enough value bets.

The optimal way of exploiting these types should be different in PLO though. Like we can't overbet, which makes our river probes less effective.
In any case, I don't agree with doing nothing/overfolding though. We definitely want to figure out how to exploit these players for a higher gain when they are deviating so strongly from optimal play

thanks, much appreciated insight!

The thing is is that especially in plo5 you could deviate to a high degree and coinciding with fact that it's pot limit. I stand by the much easier rout of "over" folding. You can exploit but being that it's online you'd need history with villains and that doesn't sound like this was the case.