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03-31-2010 , 02:45 PM
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Originally Posted by krmont22
that fold is terrible. he has to have 1 exact hand combo 75pct of the time for it to be correct. do you get shown quads a lot? yes. 75pct or more? doubtful.

also the pain of folding and not knowing is way worse than calling and losing quads over quads
i hope i am right after acting like a smart-ass
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03-31-2010 , 03:11 PM
yeah you're right. oh well.
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03-31-2010 , 03:27 PM
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Originally Posted by krmont22
also the pain of folding and not knowing is way worse than calling and losing quads over quads
THIS.
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03-31-2010 , 04:20 PM
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Originally Posted by Recon20k
J3 and AJ both value raise that river, good enough reason to call imo.

If you're ignoring bet size why would either of those hands raise river but not flop or turn?
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03-31-2010 , 04:21 PM
people get tricky?
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03-31-2010 , 04:24 PM
Eh FWIW I didn't notice the size of the raise, I just assumed it was a standard raise.

Obviously that changes things a little.


/world's worst hand history reader
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03-31-2010 , 05:49 PM
DonkPredator, what odds would you give me on some sort of HU PLO challenge 4 tabling (maybe 5 or 6 at some point) 5/10?
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03-31-2010 , 05:59 PM
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Originally Posted by djk123
DonkPredator, what odds would you give me on some sort of HU PLO challenge 4 tabling (maybe 5 or 6 at some point) 5/10?
gogogogogogogogogogogo
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03-31-2010 , 06:10 PM
willing to bet on DP
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03-31-2010 , 06:19 PM
this has a good shot of happening imo + i'd probably bet smallish amount on djk
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03-31-2010 , 06:55 PM
Please start a thread about this if it actually happens, might be interested in some side action.
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03-31-2010 , 07:32 PM
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Originally Posted by Micturition Man
If you're ignoring bet size why would either of those hands raise river but not flop or turn?
i suppose because you need some strong hands in your calling range so you don't always get blown off your over pairs.

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Originally Posted by Micturition Man
Eh FWIW I didn't notice the size of the raise, I just assumed it was a standard raise.

Obviously that changes things a little.


/world's worst hand history reader

yeh just saw that ... i misread hhs all the time too
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03-31-2010 , 07:35 PM
In the hand I posted, I was really only worried that my river bet size inspired to him to raise J3 for value. I think he is flatting AJ on river much more than raising, and regardless, I think he mostly raises AJ on flop or turn. Also a pretty good chance he raises J3 on turn, not to mention there aren't that many hands that have J3 in them, and I think he just flats the river with J3 some % of the time. Regarding my river sizing, it just seemed like a spot where he always has a J, so a spot where I'm rarely bluffing, so smaller bet seemed better to get payed off by weaker J's (probably thinking too much into it, cuz ppl are just giant stations and never folding a J). Probably should have went bigger, because he seems a bit stationy. That said, because he seemed stationy, don't think he ever gets crazy and shoves a bad J as a bluff, he just calls.

From his chat afterwards, I'm certain his play was for value, and think JJ is atleast 3x as likely as AJ, J3.

Crazy talk?

I def thought it was close, but don't think its terrible.

/nit
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03-31-2010 , 07:42 PM
it's a sweet fold
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03-31-2010 , 08:30 PM
how can he not have J8? quads beat top house most of the time.
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03-31-2010 , 08:44 PM
what
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03-31-2010 , 09:00 PM
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Originally Posted by m_reed05
commence berating

Poker Stars $5/$10 Pot Limit Omaha Hi - 5 players
The Official 2+2 Hand Converter Powered By DeucesCracked.com

onehandturks (BTN): $1567.00
20 Buck Spin (SB): $2932.00
j4kerstar (BB): $1440.00
Hero (UTG): $2480.00
flounder18 (CO): $1077.00

Pre Flop: ($15.00) Hero is UTG with 5 8 5 8
Hero raises to $35, 1 fold, onehandturks calls $35, 20 Buck Spin calls $30, 1 fold

Flop: ($115.00) J 8 J (3 players)
20 Buck Spin checks, Hero bets $90, onehandturks calls $90, 20 Buck Spin folds

Turn: ($295.00) 3 (2 players)
Hero bets $210, onehandturks calls $210

River: ($715.00) 8 (2 players)
Hero bets $430, onehandturks raises to $1232 all in, Hero folds

Final Pot: $1575.00
onehandturks wins $1573.00
(Rake: $2.00)
i really like the way you played this aprt from not betting a little bigger on river.

the type of players that would raise AJ for value on river would almost certainly have raised flop or turn. and as said, not a whole lot of J3, J33 combos he could have.

so ye, i like folding here.
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03-31-2010 , 09:01 PM
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Originally Posted by dickkemp
how can he not have J8? quads beat top house most of the time.
theres always a chance he has J8, but i thought JJ was more likely
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03-31-2010 , 09:03 PM
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Originally Posted by m_reed05
theres always a chance he has J8, but i thought JJ was more likely
level right?
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03-31-2010 , 09:41 PM
surely must be a re-level.
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03-31-2010 , 09:42 PM
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Originally Posted by m_reed05
theres always a chance he has J8, but i thought JJ was more likely
definitly more likely, it isnt even close.
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03-31-2010 , 09:47 PM
too much leveling and releveling on April 1st for my liking
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03-31-2010 , 09:56 PM
this is prob a little late but if anyone has a room / spot left in their house for the WSOP PM me plzzz.

Last edited by suckoutgenius; 03-31-2010 at 10:01 PM. Reason: oops meant to post this in the LC thread
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03-31-2010 , 10:17 PM
bad fold
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03-31-2010 , 10:31 PM
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Originally Posted by m_reed05
theres always a chance he has J8, but i thought JJ was more likely
I thought there are only 4 8ths, but I could be mistaken, happened to me so many times this year.
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