^^ impressive ev line, mine is never that straight on any given day. tilt...



also, wtf, how do i lose these. just now...


BB: $1149.00
Hero (BTN/SB): $1835.00

Pre Flop: ($15.00) Hero is BTN/SB with K J A Q
Hero raises to $30, BB raises to $90, Hero calls $60

Flop: ($180.00) T K 2 (2 players)
BB bets $120.00, Hero raises to $405, BB raises to $1059, Hero calls $654

Turn: ($2298.00) 6 (2 players)

River: ($2298.00) 5 (2 players)

Final Pot: $2298.00
BB shows 7 Q 9 J
BB wins $2297.00
(Rake: $1.00)

ps. mbn droon!

That would be one mouse down for me.

did some donation to aussie today. hope roy take care of my money lol

I'll put it in a jar and label it "urubu" and we will party with it when you come to Sydney good to see you back on 2p2!

urubu, you did a lot better than I predicted. How have the live flips been treating you?

Hmm, pretty mad at myself. Played on tilt for like 3 days straight and got what I deserved.



Couldn't really afford this, so down I go.

I srsly think you should rethink playing PLO exclusively, if you cant play NL try mixed games (with big bet rounds like plo as your clearly good at it), anything to reduce your sick sick variance.

i could not disagree more with this. chuck is one of the only players who, even when running terrible, still has their ev line go consistently almost straight up. running bad can happen anywhere, that is out of our hands. he should continue to play the game in which he is the most EV, and that really looks like it's plo.

Well from what I know about PLO (have friends who play plo exclusively, some are well known who vowed never to play it again as its just sick) it doesnt matter how well you play sometimes you can run -ev for a lifetime, just look at the NoahSD? simulations/blog. I agree his heater could be round the corner and itll all come back in buckets but seriously why play a game as high variance for a living when there are potentially other options. I dunno though I'm no expert to PLO at ALL just an outsider looking in, but I play msnl/hsnl for a living so I understand variance to some degree imo. mixed games would suit someone like this - willing to take on all regs (as alot of mixed games are tough), has plo elements etc -Just trying to help.

Variance in mixed games has to be the largest of any game. Only if the game is soft will it be compensated for.
Edit: I haven't looked at it in detail. But in 8 game, you will have so many different player types, playing a mix of games that are known to be high variance, 2-7 TD, PLO, and if you don't know them, stud will send you for a loop. I mean your chance of getting to the long term in any one of them is reduced because it is 8 game.
To reduce variance, play NLHE or L08.

because a lot of people are really really bad at PLO. The ratio of droolers to regs is much higher in PLO than many other games because of the complexity of it, so many people (even at the high stakes) will play crap hands out of position aggressively and go in ubertilt mode where they are raising every hand.

There are few people who have the discipline of chuckbass, his EV will eventually catch up with him, even if he runs bad for 500k hands, if he plays 5 million hands in 10 years he'll most likely win huge eventually because of how the runbad has tempered his clearly elite ability to maintain focus. He's tilted for 3 days in an epic run of bad luck, I'd keep playing if I were him too.

^^ I agree entirley if you have an infinte bankroll ofc you can move down/up continually to avoid bustoville. I also think he should keep at it as the heater could begin, but it could also happen in 500k hands. Some people I guess mentally stronger than I am, I couldn't do what hes doing. But I also couldnt play soley mtts for a living with the variance involved. Each to their own I guess and gl.

Hey guys, what do I need for a 6max HUD, and a HU hud. what else other than the main 3 (vp pr afq)

I've played blinds up to 50/100 but have never bothered using a HUD. mostly played HU so adapted quickly anyways. however some downswings have humbled me haha

random quote just to say lol @ the brick gif.

Chuckbass, you are such a good player, it clearly shows.
Advising quitting is so foolish from ppl... ehh anyways, you exactly know it.

I wonder if playing style has anything to do with variance, not sure, but what are your 6max stats?

I seem to time my downswings with chuckbass really sick.

had 2-3 days of real runbad and some playbad too(yes it's a real word heh)

Go on a sick upswing now Chuck!!

It's coming i can feeeel it. Right now though gotta stay disciplined n grind it out. These hurt a lot less at 2/4 than 10/20.


BTN/SB: $536.00
Hero (BB): $694.40

Pre Flop: ($6.00) Hero is BB with A Q K 9
BTN/SB raises to $12, Hero raises to $36, BTN/SB calls $24

Flop: ($72.00) 5 Q 2 (2 players)
Hero bets $54.00, BTN/SB calls $54

Turn: ($180.00) K (2 players)
Hero bets $135.00, BTN/SB raises to $446, Hero calls $311

River: ($1072.00) 5 (2 players)

Final Pot: $1072.00
BTN/SB shows 7 5 4 K
BTN/SB wins $1071.00
(Rake: $1.00)

Been said so many times. But what do people feel about non showdown line in 6max. I have periods where I can hold it Breakeven for 5-10k hands then other periods where it just slowly dies for the same amount of hands. What does everyone else's do

^ For me it mostly slowly decreases, but have some periods when it rises too. But when i look at winnings, i see that i had pretty awsome upswings, while my non-showdown line drops, so i wouldnt worry much.

I've had pretty much the same experiences - periods where it breaks even / goes up but over the long run it's just steadily going down.

variance imo, in the longrun if it slowly decreases its probably optimal if you are vbetting well

well this was a hectic 4tabling match (5/10)

arent you in vegas right now?

nope, 21hr flight tomorrow

some brags, Budapest is awesome, i got a couple good photos so far

love Budapest. i'm not a photographer but i feel like people can take some amazing pictures there.