Open Side Menu Go to the Top
Register
***High Stakes PLO BBV Thread*** ***High Stakes PLO BBV Thread***

06-22-2012 , 11:27 AM
^

when I shout and punch the desk, I can feel her judging me inside her head
***High Stakes PLO BBV Thread*** Quote
06-22-2012 , 11:55 AM
Yesterday I was down 12k in not-so-good games. Then games started to get way better and I had to leave cause I was meeting my gf. Is there a play in this spot that doesn't suck? Postponing/cancelling on gf costs so much in life EV/drama. Leaving tables I'd estimate cost me mid 4 figures.

I usually don't play when I have a < 2 hour time window to avoid **** like this. This session I started about 3-4 hours prior though.
***High Stakes PLO BBV Thread*** Quote
06-22-2012 , 12:12 PM
money isnt worth having a girlfriend that is mad at you. lets be honest we all know how down hill the sex goes once youve been in a relationship for >6months, why give her another reason to not give you sex for a while, f that.

also i find I cant really play poker well when i know my gf is mad at me, the more and more you ignore it, the angrier they get.

I find the best route is obv to not postpone, but make sure your girlfriend knows you met her instead of winning $10,000+, that should do the job
***High Stakes PLO BBV Thread*** Quote
06-22-2012 , 12:22 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by CZI
Yesterday I was down 12k in not-so-good games. Then games started to get way better and I had to leave cause I was meeting my gf. Is there a play in this spot that doesn't suck? Postponing/cancelling on gf costs so much in life EV/drama. Leaving tables I'd estimate cost me mid 4 figures.

I usually don't play when I have a < 2 hour time window to avoid **** like this. This session I started about 3-4 hours prior though.
does your gf know enough about poker and the stakes you play to understand this? mine does, so theres a good chunk of the time when i can just let her know i cant leave because ******s are dumping me stacks. obviously there are some things i just wont cancel on regardless, but i usually just make sure to communicate ahead of time if i think theres a possibility of a conflict.
***High Stakes PLO BBV Thread*** Quote
06-22-2012 , 02:52 PM
i was down 18bi at one point in this match lol.
Grabbed by Holdem Manager
PL Omaha $10(BB) Replayer
Hero ($10,453)
($10,307)

Dealt to Hero T J A 8

raises to $30, Hero raises to $90, raises to $270, Hero calls $180

FLOP ($540) 3 8 7

Hero checks, bets $539, Hero raises to $2,158, calls $1,618

TURN ($4,856) 3 8 7 J

Hero bets $4,855, raises to $7,879 (AI), Hero calls $3,024

RIVER ($20,615) 3 8 7 J 5

shows 7 K T K
(Pre 54%, Flop 31.8%, Turn 16.2%)

Hero shows T J A 8
(Pre 46%, Flop 68.2%, Turn 83.7%)

Hero wins $20,614
***High Stakes PLO BBV Thread*** Quote
06-22-2012 , 03:00 PM
Where did u find that guy
***High Stakes PLO BBV Thread*** Quote
06-22-2012 , 03:32 PM
Thats a big pot
***High Stakes PLO BBV Thread*** Quote
06-22-2012 , 03:36 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by ChuckBass
Where did u find that guy
he found me
***High Stakes PLO BBV Thread*** Quote
06-22-2012 , 04:05 PM
woooow. if the river pairs the board against you id imagine something was getting broken
***High Stakes PLO BBV Thread*** Quote
06-22-2012 , 05:58 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by InnocentSmoothie
woooow. if the river pairs the board against you id imagine something was getting broken
no id never smash anything because of poker. i think its a clownmove and shows bad character...
***High Stakes PLO BBV Thread*** Quote
06-22-2012 , 06:41 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by mikedeck22
does your gf know enough about poker and the stakes you play to understand this? mine does, so theres a good chunk of the time when i can just let her know i cant leave because ******s are dumping me stacks. obviously there are some things i just wont cancel on regardless, but i usually just make sure to communicate ahead of time if i think theres a possibility of a conflict.
Fair points but we don't live together and only see each other once or twice a week so our time together is limited. So if I cut down on time that is already limited, she really feels like second choice, regardless of how much money is involved.

And in addition, her understanding of and interest in poker/math/statistics/money isn't profound enough for concepts like "missing $x in EV" to really sink in.

Quote:
Originally Posted by Zacharrrr
no id never smash anything because of poker. i think its a clownmove and shows bad character...
I agree with that. At first I thought it was 50/100 and was wondering what's so special. Then it hit me...
***High Stakes PLO BBV Thread*** Quote
06-22-2012 , 08:48 PM
I notice in almost every graph.. All the big downswings come in a real quick space of time. So often see someone EV diving thru the floor in the space of a couple hundred hands. Just shows how hard people tilt i guess without knowing they are doing it during a session
***High Stakes PLO BBV Thread*** Quote
06-22-2012 , 11:02 PM
Eh. I'd attribute 10% of my losses to tilt. I quit when I tilt. The variance is just really nasty. I'm actually pretty happy with how I've dealt with it. I imagine something like that would normally make me pretty upset in various ways but I'm just looking forwarding to playing well for the next couple of weeks and making some more money. Last year was hell, I'm grateful for this year. This is nothing.

It's just indescribable how sick the variance really is. I was definitely one of those people who thought that people who went on insane downswings had tilt issues/played poorly but once you go on one really big swing yourself, you become an instant-believer in how sick the ride really is...and how helpless you really are to the turn and river.
***High Stakes PLO BBV Thread*** Quote
06-23-2012 , 02:05 AM
ive never set over set someone and lost during a winning session
***High Stakes PLO BBV Thread*** Quote
06-23-2012 , 02:16 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Syous

It's just indescribable how sick the variance really is. I was definitely one of those people who thought that people who went on insane downswings had tilt issues/played poorly but once you go on one really big swing yourself, you become an instant-believer in how sick the ride really is...and how helpless you really are to the turn and river.
so true
***High Stakes PLO BBV Thread*** Quote
06-23-2012 , 05:29 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by CZI
Yesterday I was down 12k in not-so-good games. Then games started to get way better and I had to leave cause I was meeting my gf. Is there a play in this spot that doesn't suck? Postponing/cancelling on gf costs so much in life EV/drama. Leaving tables I'd estimate cost me mid 4 figures.

I usually don't play when I have a < 2 hour time window to avoid **** like this. This session I started about 3-4 hours prior though.
I never start a session if I know I havent got more than 2 hours too. Its tough when the end of the day nears, you have plans and your stuck though. In your predicament I would leave though I think, who knows the session coulda got worse, but yes you obv lose some ev but f it.

I find it very hard to play with my wife about, if she goes to bed its fine. I tend to tilt more and get more annoyed than I usually would if shes sitting there watching tv or w/e. Once she asked me, 'are you like this all day when im not here' I replied 'no ofc not' (obv I am like that all day) LOL

I'm not even a plo player so it must be 100x worse for you lot.
***High Stakes PLO BBV Thread*** Quote
06-23-2012 , 05:42 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by dappadan777
I never start a session if I know I havent got more than 2 hours too.
this is great advice, i never play if i know i have to leave in like an hour hour. 3 hours then its ok
***High Stakes PLO BBV Thread*** Quote
06-23-2012 , 06:03 AM
This is the second "major" downswing I've gone through and by far the worst. I'd count anything under 50-70 buy-ins as pretty standard at 5/10+. The more I go through the ups and downs in this game I think the more I realise the absurd amount of luck involved in the short-term swings. When I was on my last big heater I was literally laughing at the screen as I just couldn't make any wrong play for about 200k hands. I was even mis-clicking and catching people bluffing in ridiculous spots by accident. Pretty hard to keep on playing OK when you're running like ass though - even if you've a pretty good temperament.

WHERE IS MY $2MM HEATER!?
***High Stakes PLO BBV Thread*** Quote
06-23-2012 , 06:30 AM
I caught some of your rungood when I moved into your room. I hope it lasts/comes back
***High Stakes PLO BBV Thread*** Quote
06-23-2012 , 06:50 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by gavz101
This is the second "major" downswing I've gone through and by far the worst. I'd count anything under 50-70 buy-ins as pretty standard at 5/10+. The more I go through the ups and downs in this game I think the more I realise the absurd amount of luck involved in the short-term swings. When I was on my last big heater I was literally laughing at the screen as I just couldn't make any wrong play for about 200k hands. I was even mis-clicking and catching people bluffing in ridiculous spots by accident. Pretty hard to keep on playing OK when you're running like ass though - even if you've a pretty good temperament.

WHERE IS MY $2MM HEATER!?
I'm intrigued to see a lifetime graph.
***High Stakes PLO BBV Thread*** Quote
06-23-2012 , 07:33 AM
+1
***High Stakes PLO BBV Thread*** Quote
06-23-2012 , 01:02 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Zacharrrr
this is great advice, i never play if i know i have to leave in like an hour hour. 3 hours then its ok
horrible advice. mental game leak.
***High Stakes PLO BBV Thread*** Quote
06-23-2012 , 02:33 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by -sham-
horrible advice. mental game leak.
How is it a mental game leak to make sure you have enough time for a session and not be interupted mid session? I'm not talking about booking wins (which I do and is likely a mental game leak), I'm saying I dont want to start playing with the knowledge that in 45 mins I have a dentist appt. I'd hapily wait till after my appt and then have a spare 3 hours+.

I'd go as far as to say that if you starting sessions then having to quit all the time for irl stuff you are likely the one with mental game issues - although I suffer from lots of other mental game leaks but thats off topic.
***High Stakes PLO BBV Thread*** Quote
06-23-2012 , 02:36 PM
Your career is one long session. Time constraints should not matter.
***High Stakes PLO BBV Thread*** Quote
06-23-2012 , 08:04 PM
It's clearly a mental game leak. Look at it from this perspective:

There are two players. One is able to play for 30-40 minutes, play his A game and walk away feeling perfect to go to the dentist or whatever. The other, for whatever reasons, cannot do this. Which would you rather be?

The leak is feeling bad when you have to leave good games, or for any reason. Choosing never to play when you know you have to leave is a good short-term solution but it doesn't fix the leak, it just makes it so it won't show up as often. If you're playing a normal session expecting to play for 3 hours and something comes up that you hadn't expected - and you have to leave - you're prone to feeling angry/annoyed/upset/bad again.
***High Stakes PLO BBV Thread*** Quote

      
m