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06-05-2012 , 10:06 AM
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i also go all in mostly with the best hand.




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06-05-2012 , 10:09 AM
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Originally Posted by dappadan777
On another topic, I read above about the drug discussion. I'm a heavy drinker but hate any type of illegal drug with maybe the exception of a little hash, which I don't even smoke. I used to use coke and weed in my youth but quit all of them years ago. I has friends who have ruined their lives through cocaine and I had a bad experience taking too much MDMA once that put me off drugs for life.

However I'm intrigued by it all. And I got a question. A friend of mine was hit by a motorcycle 4 years ago an is basically a vegetable. It's the worst thing to happen in my social group. He should of died but sadly is still here, he reacts to certain things an can laugh an generally knows what's going on but can't really do anything. Would DMT or a similar type of drug help someone like this? To maybe Re-ignite the brain or something? I'd like to suggest to his best mates that maybe his family should look into an unorthodox style of guinea pig type testing as a last resort or something. When I say left as a vegetable he was left totally brain damaged

Also would something like that be good to treat depression or something?
sounds like a terrible idea, giving someone who isn't expecting it or not prepared for an incredibly strong psychedelic can't be good
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06-05-2012 , 10:24 AM
Was just a thought not a real possibility at all. He's totally brain dead and vegetable like atm and has been for 4 years wtf harm could something like that do? It's hypothetical anyway as he's still in care in a private hospital and the idea would be impossible to implement but thinking outside the box if it had beneficial properties after using it maybe it could do something positive. Dunno, clutching at straws idea obv.
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06-05-2012 , 10:34 AM
Try use a term other then vegetable
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06-05-2012 , 10:38 AM
do you have any idea of his actual level of consciousness. Just because there's no physical signs of him reacting to his environment doesn't mean that mentally his brain isn't still working. Could you imagine being in that state, and then all of a sudden being thrown into some hard trip. People who are fully aware of what they are getting themselves into have incredibly bad reactions, so to do that to someone who is unaware just seems cruel.
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06-05-2012 , 10:44 AM
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Try use a term other then vegetable
Reverse fruit.
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06-05-2012 , 10:59 AM
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Try use a term other then vegetable
Why does it offend you? Wtf. What other term could I use, when in effect that's what he has become.

He cant speak, do things for himself or really communicate - I haven seen him in a while but last I heard he had some reactions such as laughing, almost child like. My friends who are really close to him say he knows they are there, they also say he hasn't improved in years and there was hope with the laughing but it's plateued somewhat. I just thought something that could open a persons brain up might jilt him into action, obviously someone not knowing they are about To embark on a trip would be horrific. But so is the status quo.
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06-05-2012 , 12:13 PM
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Why does it offend you? Wtf. What other term could I use, when in effect that's what he has become.

He cant speak, do things for himself or really communicate - I haven seen him in a while but last I heard he had some reactions such as laughing, almost child like. My friends who are really close to him say he knows they are there, they also say he hasn't improved in years and there was hope with the laughing but it's plateued somewhat. I just thought something that could open a persons brain up might jilt him into action, obviously someone not knowing they are about To embark on a trip would be horrific. But so is the status quo.
vegetative?
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06-05-2012 , 03:35 PM
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Was just a thought not a real possibility at all. He's totally brain dead and vegetable like atm and has been for 4 years wtf harm could something like that do? It's hypothetical anyway as he's still in care in a private hospital and the idea would be impossible to implement but thinking outside the box if it had beneficial properties after using it maybe it could do something positive. Dunno, clutching at straws idea obv.
why are you guys keeping him allive? If it is possible he is still fully conscious and cant communicate about that then that seems kinda cruel :/ . Gotta put that in my will. If i turn in a vegetable, kill me asap.
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06-05-2012 , 03:42 PM
It's his friend, not his son. But I agree, would never want to live like that personally
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06-05-2012 , 05:13 PM
im not sure but i dont think death help is legal in many places
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06-05-2012 , 07:38 PM



Sick and really gets to me, both mentally and moneywise.

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06-05-2012 , 10:19 PM
Dappa have you guys bought him an Ipad. Seriously, Autistic people who have trouble communicating (have never spoken in their lives) have been reported to instantly be able to use them and to be able to communicate with the world. I would look into such devices to try and give him a better quality of life.

Edit: Oh and the drugs idea is terrible. Never do that without proper supervision which you won't be able to get.
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06-06-2012 , 05:57 AM
Not a big one or anything but still a when cards turned over on flopp



    Poker Stars, $5/$10, $2 ante Pot Limit Omaha Cash, 6 Players
    Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite. View Hand #13108861

    Hero (SB): $2,064.60 (206.5 bb)
    BB: $5,673.27 (567.3 bb)
    UTG: $2,066.09 (206.6 bb)
    MP: $1,198.70 (119.9 bb)
    CO: $2,500 (250 bb)
    BTN: $3,243.11 (324.3 bb)

    Preflop: Hero is SB with A A Q K
    2 folds, CO raises to $30, BTN raises to $90, Hero raises to $322, 2 folds, BTN calls $232

    Flop: ($696) 5 A 4 (2 players)
    Hero bets $693, BTN raises to $2,772, Hero calls $1,047.60 and is all-in

    Turn: ($4,177.20) 8 (2 players, 1 is all-in)
    River: ($4,177.20) J (2 players, 1 is all-in)

    Spoiler:
    Results: $4,177.20 pot ($3 rake)
    Final Board: 5 A 4 8 J
    Hero showed A A Q K and lost (-$2,064.60 net)
    BTN showed 2 3 3 2 and won $4,174.20 ($2,109.60 net)



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    06-06-2012 , 06:43 AM
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    why are you guys keeping him allive? If it is possible he is still fully conscious and cant communicate about that then that seems kinda cruel :/ . Gotta put that in my will. If i turn in a vegetable, kill me asap.
    I usually ignore these comments, but this was too horrific to just skim over.

    "Why are you guys keeping him alive?" Really man? I'm not sure if this was supposed to be a joke, or if you are actually that pathetic/clueless. Or maybe you're just oblivious to how offensive and hurtful a comment like this could be to someone who has been through this kind of situation.

    You should meet Virginia Ironside, you two would really hit it off. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5RAAh...eature=related

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    06-06-2012 , 07:19 AM
    I don't see how it is pathetic or cruel to say that being trapped in a prolonged mental prison of partial to no functionality is worse than death. I'm sure people would have their preferences.
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    06-06-2012 , 08:53 AM
    I would certainly rather be dead than in a permanent vegetative state.
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    06-06-2012 , 02:15 PM
    You guys should check this out. Terry Pratchett: Choosing To Die
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    06-06-2012 , 02:50 PM
    It very well may be in some cases, but humans aren't dogs. You can't just choose to put them out of their misery. It's an absurd thing to say and clearly not well thought out. Now if the person said it was what they wanted, that's a different story and would fall into the category of assisted suicide. I can't even begin to imagine what it's like to have to face that decision, so I'm in no position to to say whether it is right or wrong for them to choose this.

    My sister has Rett Syndrome and my parents have devoted their life to taking care of her. She is unable to communicate in any way. She cannot walk or control her body. She has seizures daily. She is basically a baby stuck in a 30 year olds body. Every day my parents have to feed her, shower her, and change her among many others. Every day is a struggle for them.

    My sister enjoys watching movies, and loves being around her family. She has days when she is very happy, when everything seems to strike her has funny. Her smile lights up the room. It's hard to describe how fullfilling this is.

    Naturally, everyone has wondered at some point what her purpose in life is. What good can come out of a situation like this?All I know is, she's here, and we will do everything we can to alleviate her suffering to make her happier. But to hear someone, who has never been in such position, say that this person is useless and why do we keep her alive is beyond disgusting. If you have never been close to a disabled person, or been through a situation like dappadan mentioned, save yourself the embaressment and don't make obscenely ignorant comments like chichip. Otherwise you end up looking like Virginia Ironside.

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    06-06-2012 , 02:57 PM
    humans are animals
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    06-06-2012 , 03:19 PM
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    Originally Posted by dappadan777
    Why does it offend you? Wtf. What other term could I use, when in effect that's what he has become.

    He cant speak, do things for himself or really communicate - I haven seen him in a while but last I heard he had some reactions such as laughing, almost child like. My friends who are really close to him say he knows they are there
    Vegetable is def not the term to use. If he is able to show emotions such as laughing and awareness of his surroundings, he is not even close to a "vegetative" state. (I hate that term anyways)
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    06-06-2012 , 03:58 PM
    maybe we're all in vegetative states and this is our dream world?
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    06-06-2012 , 05:49 PM
    Yeh the above 'keeping him alive' comment is ridiculous he isn't my son it's not my choice lol. I too would rather be dead, but sometimes the family I guess hopes something will change - there have been cases where people suddenly wake up. The iPad suggestion is a good idea and I'm not sure if they have I'll ask for sure.

    Sadly the hospital is round the corner from my house and whenever I have a bad day and curse my luck I always get jilted back to reality when I drive past or think about him. Humans are so easy to forget how good we have it, sadly it takes the suffering of others to really realise it, and even then it's short lived and we go back to our old habits.
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    06-06-2012 , 06:21 PM
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