i just tried taking out a lot of the better AAxx combos and it still doesn't help much. maybe i'm failing at PPT (highly likely) but i can't get anywhere near the 39% you say/need to make getting it in okay.

oh noez ! shocking revelation ! iggy played one hand of plo poorly !
come on, who never misplayed a hand ?

we are all jealous of him MBFN!

Propokertools sucks to work with because you can never put enough combos in if you use suits, it's a flaw that makes it pretty much impossible to get ranges with in PLO. I'd say though that about 20% of his range looks roughly like this:

ProPokerTools Omaha Hi Simulation

600,000 trials (Randomized)

board: a85

Hand	Pot equity	Wins	Ties
ksjsqs3d	52.78%	316,697	0
9s7s6*, 7s6s4*	47.22%	283,303	0

60% of his range looks about like this (using one spade on an exact card to get approximately the same combos as two spades with two pair):

ProPokerTools Omaha Hi Simulation

600,000 trials (Randomized)

board: a85

Hand	Pot equity	Wins	Ties
ksjsqs3d	33.74%	202,277	276
A8**, 8765, 8s5**	66.26%	397,447	276

And then 20% of his range looks like this:

ProPokerTools Omaha Hi Simulation

600,000 trials (Randomized)

board: a85

Hand	Pot equity	Wins	Ties
ksjsqs3d	26.39%	158,229	272
AA**, 88**, 55**	73.61%	441,499	272

So, .2*.5278 + .6*.3374 +.2*.2639 = .36078. OK, so that's a little lower than my ballpark estimate. Let's see what makes shoving breakeven now:

19,176/52,658 = .36416

OK, so I mis-estimated and made a mistake that costs me $178 on average. My bad, looks like I cost myself 3bb of equity. 6-max isn't really my best game anyway, I'm way better HU.

+1

i act the way they do when i play one well: amazed, , , , . then reality comes about 4 hands later: , , , ,

ok a downswing so annoying it is only called "The Downswing" it is my biggest both in BIs and $ (ignoring dec, that doesnt count).

1) im definitely jealous. no denying it at all.
2) i just want to make sure we're looking at the same hand... sb checks, bb bets, button raises and sb sticks in 400bb cold. and hes 20% to have any of the sets and 65% to have a ****** two pair and bad draw? riiiiiiight.

I've got a ton of history with him HU, I'm the only that covers him, and he just generally likes to get it in light anyway. There's no way he folds two pair with an OESD or a flush draw there. I think he gets in with some Axxx + weak FD hands too that I didn't mention. Sets aren't all that likely combo-wise based on preflop.

Probably not my place to post this, but..

fyp

lol

he doesn't care, you got any idea how good he is at HU? way better than at 6max bro.

even 500bbs deep?? I think your way underestimating how many times he has aaa, but whatever, you like to gamble, big deal and congrats!

No, I really thought I did have the odds at the time and didn't question the play at all when I posted it. I just thought it was amusing how I hit my 7-outer twice. After going through ranges I realized it was a slight mistake, but the people who are posting PPT ranges are waaaaay further off with their estimates than I was with mine and it's kind of annoying me how smug they are.

I mean, he probably has 88 a decent amount, but he's a pretty aggro 3-bettor and I'd 4-bet him twice in the last like 10 hands. I can't imagine he's flatting any decent aces pre.

+1
took the words right outa my mouth

this is the description of a fish. I know babayaro is a very great and talented PLO player, so there is no way he gets in 500bbs that light unless he is on another monkeybananatilt

/end discussion about hand. this is bbv ffs

hey iggy, i would have gotten it in , that prbly makes you feel worse LOL

iggy will read back on this in about a week, and then he will realize how silly he looks. We have all been in that spot probably.

Pylusha is such a joke. I really hope he gets hit by a bus (not a lethal hit though, but I really want him to feel some serious pain)

Poker Stars $2/$4 Pot Limit Omaha Hi $0.80 Ante - 6 players
The Official 2+2 Hand Converter By DeucesCracked Poker Videos

UTG: $3036.80
MP: $1000.00
CO: $500.00
BTN: $2037.75
Hero (SB): $823.80
BB: $423.30

Pre Flop: ($10.80) Hero is SB with T A 2 A
UTG calls $4, MP raises to $22.80, 1 fold, BTN calls $22.80, Hero raises to $104, 2 folds, MP raises to $347.60, 1 fold, Hero raises to $823 all in, MP calls $475.40

Flop: ($1681.60) 4 5 Q (2 players - 1 is all in)

Turn: ($1681.60) 7 (2 players - 1 is all in)

River: ($1681.60) 3 (2 players - 1 is all in)

Final Pot: $1681.60
MP shows K 5 6 A (a straight, Three to Seven)
Hero shows T A 2 A (a straight, Ace to Five)
MP wins $1678.60
(Rake: $3.00)

he has bare A8xx pretty much never and you otherwise essentially assign 80% to non-nut wraps + FDs to a cold 4bettor when he is 500BBs deep (in a spot where you look strong) and not a ******? seems optimistic but play on playa.

yep yep, 2nd decision is bad news bears just kiss it goodbye. First is kind of interesting.

Haha, this.

Well, he didn't 4-bet, he 3-bet, and I'm assigning it to wrap + FDs, two pair + OESD, two pair + FD, and top two with which my read I think he raises more than he flats and never folds. If anything, I think I might have overrated the wrap + FD portion of his range, but I definitely don't think the middle portion's too much, that should probably be more if anything. I just don't think a set's a big portion of his range at all when he goes flat/flat pre. Also, donkpredator's the only one who said he's not a ******.

But in all seriousness, I'm pretty sick of talking about this hand, think I've gone through it enough today.

^This

and ^This

Play is terrible even 200bb deep.

Oh, I forgot. And definitely ^THIS