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Got myself in a weird situation, do I have to see a flop? Got myself in a weird situation, do I have to see a flop?

07-23-2008 , 04:29 PM
Just getting my feet wet in PLO, 200 deep and with the shorty added, do I have to see a flop? How bad is my overcall?

Full Tilt Poker $0.10/$0.25 Pot Limit Omaha Hi - 6 players
The Official 2+2 Hand Converter Powered By DeucesCracked.com

SB: $25.00
BB: $10.00
Hero (UTG): $55.15
MP: $56.25
CO: $37.00
BTN: $25.25

Pre Flop: Hero is UTG with 7 6 5 3
Hero calls $0.25, MP raises to $1.10, CO raises to $3.90, 2 folds, BB calls $3.65, Hero calls $3.65, MP raises to $19.60, 1 fold, BB calls $6.10 all in, Hero...

Flop: ($27.90) J Q A

Turn: ($27.90) 2

River: ($27.90) 8
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07-23-2008 , 04:36 PM
no, fold more than you call, call or raise from late position, raise if theres only you and the blinds, maybe a couple limpers, call if there is a bunch of limpers.

Calling a reraise with this garbage hand from early position is setting you up to chase draws that probably arent good.

It has big play potential, but i believe only from the CO or BTN, and with alot of limpers.
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07-23-2008 , 04:37 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Jihad
Just getting my feet wet in PLO, 200 deep and with the shorty added, do I have to see a flop? How bad is my overcall?

Full Tilt Poker $0.10/$0.25 Pot Limit Omaha Hi - 6 players
The Official 2+2 Hand Converter Powered By DeucesCracked.com

SB: $25.00
BB: $10.00
Hero (UTG): $55.15
MP: $56.25
CO: $37.00
BTN: $25.25

Pre Flop: Hero is UTG with 7 6 5 3
Hero calls $0.25, MP raises to $1.10, CO raises to $3.90, 2 folds, BB calls $3.65, Hero FOLDS
FYP. If you were closing the action a call is fine, but with the initial raiser still to act behind you... give up your quarter and wait for a better spot.
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07-23-2008 , 10:34 PM
First preflop call is whatever but second preflop call is bad. Fold the third time for sure.
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07-24-2008 , 12:20 AM
First call is marginal at best, not a hand to played out of position...

Flatting the 3 bet doesn't work especially with action behind, taking this hand to a flop in a four bet multiway pot is giving away money.

If you were double suited and depending on the original raiser's stats you could squeeze the CO raise and try and snap off a big hand where you are probably only a small dog.
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07-24-2008 , 12:30 AM
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If you were double suited and depending on the original raiser's stats you could squeeze the CO raise and try and snap off a big hand where you are probably only a small dog.
Putting money in bad is putting money in bad. Fold.
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07-24-2008 , 12:47 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Scary_Tiger
Putting money in bad is putting money in bad. Fold.
35+ BB in the pot when its the hero's action, lots of dead money gives alot better options.
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07-24-2008 , 01:25 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Dr ship it
35+ BB in the pot when its the hero's action, lots of dead money gives alot better options.
[ ] BB is ever folding
[ ] CO is ever folding

The side pot will be heads up between us and CO, and it will be for 180 BB each with no overlay. We're a dog versus every hand in his range.

6s 5s 7h 3h 220678 44.14 279322 55.86 0 0.00 0.441
As Qs 9d Ah 279322 55.86 220678 44.14 0 0.00 0.559

The main pot will be three way and MP and the small blind will provide a LITTLE overlay. 5 BB in total.

6s 5s 7h 3h 167940 33.59 331934 66.39 126 0.03 0.336
As Qs 9d Ah 169652 33.93 314595 62.92 15753 3.15 0.355
Js 8s Qh 9h 146529 29.31 337592 67.52 15879 3.18 0.309

If we had a 10 dollar stack, then yeah a shove is just flipping really. But with a 55 dollar stack we're taking way the worst of it against the CO 3-bettor.
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07-24-2008 , 02:31 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Jihad
How bad is my overcall?
Bad. If you were double suited with no gap in position I wouldn't hate it considering the implied odds if you flop a monster with a nice little redraw.
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07-24-2008 , 03:11 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Scary_Tiger
If we had a 10 dollar stack, then yeah a shove is just flipping really. But with a 55 dollar stack we're taking way the worst of it against the CO 3-bettor.
Sorry, my bad misread post thought hero was BB
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