MP is extremely aggressive, especially with check raising the flop and with draws. The two significant notes that I have on MP are: " Called flop cbet with weak hand - no draw" and " Raised flop w/ bare straight, no draw & SPR > = 4

I only have a little over 200 hands on both MP and CO.

MP: 45/16/9

CO: 56/10/0


PokerStars, Omaha Pot Limit - $0.15/$0.30 - 6 players
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UTG: $24.34 (81 bb)
MP: $44.48 (148 bb)
CO: $13.91 (46 bb)
BU (Hero): $43.67 (146 bb)
SB: $46.60 (155 bb)
BB: $69.21 (231 bb)

Pre-Flop: ($0.45) Hero is BTN with Q♥ Q♠ T♠ T♦
1 fold, MP raises to $1.05, CO calls $1.05, Hero 3-bets to $4.65, 2 players fold, MP calls $3.60, CO calls $3.60

Flop: ($14.40) 2♥ J♣ 9♣ (3 players)
MP checks, CO checks, Hero bets $10.94, MP raises to $39.83 (all-in), CO calls $9.26 (all-in), BU (Hero) folds

I think this is just a call pre, it plays fine multiway but isn't great if you get 4 bet.

As played this is a fold you could be drawing very slim/almost getting freerolled if anyone has the same straight draw as you with the flush draw. Especially since you're 150bb deep. If I 3bet this pre I'm checking back flop.

CC pre, and flop is easy check. To 3-bet you'd like an Ace blocker or a hand that plays OK against a 4-bet. We make money in this great game by being in position, the higher SPR the better. It's counter-intuitive, but you want to be 3-beting in this spot less, not more. As for the flop, why are you betting? What are good blockers on this board?

pre flop should be okish if both villains are very loose, but flat call is the standard play. checking flop is the way to go

As far as the 3Bet pre, there was a couple of things going through my head. First, since MP had been being very aggressive and pushing his weight around, I wanted to show him that he wasn't the only one who could be aggressive. Additionally, with the feel of the table, I figured that if I just called the single raise that the SB and BB would as well. I'd really hate for someone to come in with a trash hand, because "might as well, everyone else is in" and somehow get busted by that.

I bet the flop to continue the aggression and with the hope that I could take it down right there (MP and the CO checked to me). As far as the blockers, you're right, I had no good flush blockers, only straight blockers.

Here's how the whole hand played out:


PokerStars, Omaha Pot Limit - $0.15/$0.30 - 6 players
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UTG: $24.34 (81 bb)
MP: $44.48 (148 bb)
CO: $13.91 (46 bb)
BU (Hero): $43.67 (146 bb)
SB: $46.60 (155 bb)
BB: $69.21 (231 bb)

Pre-Flop: ($0.45) Hero is BTN with Q♥ Q♠ T♠ T♦
1 fold, MP raises to $1.05, CO calls $1.05, Hero 3-bets to $4.65, 2 players fold, MP calls $3.60, CO calls $3.60

Flop: ($14.40) 2♥ J♣ 9♣ (3 players)
MP checks, CO checks, Hero bets $10.94, MP raises to $39.83 (all-in), CO calls $9.26 (all-in), BU (Hero) folds

Turn: ($45.54) J♥ (2 players, 2 all-in)

River: ($45.54) 6♦ (2 players, 2 all-in)

Total pot: $45.54 (Rake: $2)

Showdown:
MP shows T♥ 6♣ 7♥ 8♣ (two pair, Jacks and Sixes)
(Equity - Pre-Flop: 45%, Flop: 39%, Turn: 43%, River: 0%)

CO shows 6♠ 7♣ A♣ 4♠ (two pair, Jacks and Sixes - higher kicker)
(Equity - Pre-Flop: 55%, Flop: 61%, Turn: 58%, River: 100%)

MP wins $3.36
CO wins $40.18

With double pair hands it doesn't really matter if more people come in. The value of the hand is to hit top set and get the money in against a weaker range. The hands you want to play heads up are the king high double suited connected type hands where if you go multiway there's a chance your draws will be dominated. If you flop top set and get the money in you're at worst flipping against a massive draw.

I think you should of flatted preflop as the hand plays very well multi-way, and I think you should of stacked off with the deep stack.

There is only one hand that you don't get direct odds stacking off w/ him, that hand would be set+flush, and even then you probably have 20%.

Also he could jam some weaker hands that you beat.

I think cc pre is more ok.
After pottinng flop i dont fold

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Mp is aggro and likes to c/r flop with draws
Mp check raised flop
Hero folds?

Thank you to everyone for the responses. They're very helpful and really do mean a lot.

Here's another question though: Let's say I checked the flop and the Jack hits on the turn as it did. If the aggro villain pots (and I would have expected that he would) and the CO calls, it's a fold then, right?

Yes, I would fold once the jack hit…. Especially a jack of hearts…

No idea what everyone is going on about pre, it's an automatic 3bet. You can look at the Preflop Matrix it's a 3bet/call at all rake structures.

I don't know what preflop matrix you're using but upswings has this as a call at both 50bb and 100bb (bu sqz vs utg). The situation is a mess to find a solution to though since it's two different stacks sizes and you're squeezing btn vs MP which at least the upswing matrix doesn't handle at all.

I'd say call pre and check back flop. If Jh hits turn and someone bets more than 1/3rd pot I think you gotta toss it, people play a lot of Jxxx hands and it's vs two people

Yea, was my bad. Had accidentally clicked on the 250bb ones for some reason. Usually try to play to the deeper effective stack but it's also in a kind of weird stack size as you said and a slightly looser position opening.

Im ok with betting flop but if I do not gonna fold the shove.

I like the flop bet. Hero has excellent double sets of blockers to the nut straight. Just have to hope no one has a flush draw.

Why would you fold to the shove? You have a draw to the nut straight and its unlikely any else does because of your blockers. You would have been leading with 44% equity all-in.

Of course, with that run out you would have lost all of your chips. It's Omaha, enjoy the variance!

Queens up beats Jacks up.