First PLO Session from hell PT 4. - Nuts no good
03-03-2020
, 08:42 AM
Was very excited about this hand because it was my first nut wrap. The river made me want to puke. Can I call this bet size or is it always a flush?
Yatahay Network - $0.02 PL Hi (6 max) - Omaha Hi - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4
CO: 40 BB
BTN: 133.5 BB
SB: 271.5 BB
BB: 107 BB
Hero (UTG): 210.5 BB
MP: 167.5 BB
SB posts SB 0.5 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB, CO posts penalty blind 0.5 BB
Pre Flop: (pot: 2 BB) Hero has 9
J
A
T
Hero raises to 4 BB, MP calls 4 BB, fold, fold, fold, BB calls 3 BB
Flop: (13 BB, 3 players) A 8 7
BB checks, Hero bets 6.5 BB, MP calls 6.5 BB, fold
Turn: (26 BB, 2 players) T
Hero bets 26 BB, MP calls 26 BB
River: (78 BB, 2 players) 3
Hero checks, MP bets 39 BB, Hero calls 39 BB
Yatahay Network - $0.02 PL Hi (6 max) - Omaha Hi - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4
CO: 40 BB
BTN: 133.5 BB
SB: 271.5 BB
BB: 107 BB
Hero (UTG): 210.5 BB
MP: 167.5 BB
SB posts SB 0.5 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB, CO posts penalty blind 0.5 BB
Pre Flop: (pot: 2 BB) Hero has 9
J A T Hero raises to 4 BB, MP calls 4 BB, fold, fold, fold, BB calls 3 BB
Flop: (13 BB, 3 players) A
8 7 BB checks, Hero bets 6.5 BB, MP calls 6.5 BB, fold
Turn: (26 BB, 2 players) T
Hero bets 26 BB, MP calls 26 BB
River: (78 BB, 2 players) 3
Hero checks, MP bets 39 BB, Hero calls 39 BB
Spoiler:
03-04-2020
, 01:55 AM
03-04-2020
, 11:50 AM
Having the A, J or 9 is pretty important here ... not so much against fish who are calling A432 pre. and on this flop, but certainly as you move up (and it'll help you balance calls vs. folds with the same hands).
You should also be checking (and then raising) this turn, for a whole bunch of range and hand strength reasons ... but it'll also help because if it checks through and you check river (or even bet ½ pot) it's more likely villain isn't bluffing when bets or raises happen.
Also, pre. is a fold with no suits (although you might be able to get away with it at his level).
, J or 9 is pretty important here ... not so much against fish who are calling A432 pre. and on this flop, but certainly as you move up (and it'll help you balance calls vs. folds with the same hands).You should also be checking (and then raising) this turn, for a whole bunch of range and hand strength reasons ... but it'll also help because if it checks through and you check river (or even bet ½ pot) it's more likely villain isn't bluffing when bets or raises happen.
Also, pre. is a fold with no suits (although you might be able to get away with it at his level).
03-04-2020
, 01:56 PM
Quote:
Having the A, J or 9 is pretty important here ... not so much against fish who are calling A432 pre. and on this flop, but certainly as you move up (and it'll help you balance calls vs. folds with the same hands).
You should also be checking (and then raising) this turn, for a whole bunch of range and hand strength reasons ... but it'll also help because if it checks through and you check river (or even bet ½ pot) it's more likely villain isn't bluffing when bets or raises happen.
Also, pre. is a fold with no suits (although you might be able to get away with it at his level).
, J or 9 is pretty important here ... not so much against fish who are calling A432 pre. and on this flop, but certainly as you move up (and it'll help you balance calls vs. folds with the same hands).You should also be checking (and then raising) this turn, for a whole bunch of range and hand strength reasons ... but it'll also help because if it checks through and you check river (or even bet ½ pot) it's more likely villain isn't bluffing when bets or raises happen.
Also, pre. is a fold with no suits (although you might be able to get away with it at his level).
Why do you fold pre ? isn't it enough to open a connected hand with A high
03-04-2020
, 02:53 PM
To be fair I don't have matrix, and a quick look suggests even rainbow this is ~20% hand so maybe robots play it for a profit. Saying that ...
Not from UTG. For example this board is amazing for your hand, but if it wasn't rainbow:
...and that's HU, as we saw in your original hand you aren't going to be HU much until you get much higher stakes (and people will play crappy flush draws).
| ProPokerTools Omaha Hi Simulation |
| 600,000 trials (Randomized) |
| board: A87 |
| Hand | Pot equity | Wins | Ties |
|---|---|---|---|
| AwJxTy9z | 49.51% | 287,237 | 19,611 |
| 60%:ss | 50.49% | 293,152 | 19,611 |
...and that's HU, as we saw in your original hand you aren't going to be HU much until you get much higher stakes (and people will play crappy flush draws).
03-04-2020
, 02:58 PM
Quote:
To be fair I don't have matrix, and a quick look suggests even rainbow this is ~20% hand so maybe robots play it for a profit. Saying that ...
Not from UTG. For example this board is amazing for your hand, but if it wasn't rainbow:
...and that's HU, as we saw in your original hand you aren't going to be HU much until you get much higher stakes (and people will play crappy flush draws).
Not from UTG. For example this board is amazing for your hand, but if it wasn't rainbow:
| ProPokerTools Omaha Hi Simulation |
| 600,000 trials (Randomized) |
| board: A87 |
| Hand | Pot equity | Wins | Ties |
|---|---|---|---|
| AwJxTy9z | 49.51% | 287,237 | 19,611 |
| 60%:ss | 50.49% | 293,152 | 19,611 |
...and that's HU, as we saw in your original hand you aren't going to be HU much until you get much higher stakes (and people will play crappy flush draws).