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Originally Posted by Munga30
Inverted answer: we don't 3bet wider because being 4bet at eq punishes us more than if we had 3bet less. We flop less equity and playability, generally, and *should* have to fold more across a bunch of post flop nodes.
Fwiw my understanding is we should modulate our 3b frequency mostly by the openers range ie his position. So the Ivan in Situation 1 is way more out of line than Opal in Situation 2, imo.
Right that’s pretty good
It’s key to understand that high 3b largely leads to self own for the 3bettor. You can understand this better by trying it a bit for yourself. You get into constant situations where you have to either stack off slightly too light or end up folding too much equity.
Facing 4b is the obvious damage but I think the biggest trouble arises on turns. 3bet too much and follow up with a lot of cbets and you end up in very marginal turn spots where you end up having to stack off really light or folding a bunch of equity.
The reason regs get away with this at like 1/2 online is that people freak out and over adjust with a bunch of spew and start paying off these players value bets too much because they are aggressive.
When you feed an overly aggressive 3bet strategy into a solver the adjustments are not as dramatic as you’d expect.
Your 4bet goes up a little bit
You start to limp hands that play poor vs 3bets. So maybe some hands like mediocre KK/QQ/JJ, single suited middling rundowns, poorly connected double suited AQxx kinda hands. Don’t limp everything, most hands are still better to raise. Crappy kings can be just a raise/fold. KQ64ds I’ll just raise and play happily vs a 3b.
Then there is some ev gain postflop. You take things to the turn more often. You’re able to make some lighter bluff/semi bluff raises.
You start to rape their flat calling ranges. Those extra hands they’re 3betting come from the flatting ranges weakening those usually without any further thought and readjustment. Thoughtful pounding on textures that they now interact less with is effective.
Every adjustment here is a few % but add it all up together and it’s big and actually fairly easy to beat such opponents.
Focus on the postflop adjustments because that’s where the real money is at. You can’t exploit well if you don’t understand the situation to begin with so do the work in trainer/solver so you understand each texture and what the ev of each kind of combo/line is.