I've been playing PLO on stars and have mainly been playing the 40-100bb tables. I in fact despised short stackers in the 40-100bb games. Until one day I realised there was a ton more tables running on the 20-50bb games and it seemed everyone was playing terribly getting it in really light. Only problem with this is with shorter stacks variance can be greater.

I see pros and cons to playing the shallow tables. One thing i've struggled with is at the 100bb tables i'd often call a pre-flop raise for 3-4bb with hands I should probably fold at the 20-50bb tables as the implied odds change and it just gets expensive calling raises and check-folding flops. Then when you do win it's only 50bb or something in that region. Bluffing at 20-50bb largely becomes a losing proposition as weaker flushes become more valuable, but then more fish are most likely lured to those games.

So let's say I intend to hopefully get to $3/6 at some point in time. Which tables should I be playing & are there more reasons to stay at 40-100bb as opposed to playing the shallow tables?

the 50bb games just mean that the effective SPR is higher, so it becomes correct to get it in lighter in single raised pots. Basically every hand becomes a 3bet pot. I'm sure most of the value in the games comes from the high concentration of fish, so if you and a fish can catch a double or two then suddenly you're in a much better spot.

mayor, you mean the effective SPR is lower, right?

i've never played in these games. can someone give a synopsis of how they run? raising frequencies pf, concentration of fish, etc?

I've played a little bit of the stars PLO50 20BB-50BB tables. They are insanely fishy. Lots of 4 to 6 handed limped pots. I suppose you can revert to a tighter style than regular 6 max as you will usually always get a multiway pot with your big hands.

I recently changed from playing the cap/shallow games to full buy in games at full tilt. Cap shallow games are more fishy for sure. I had 6 max tables with opponents playing >80% of there hands. More than 1 often. This was up to 0.5-1

My playing style was tight without making big blufs. Non showdown winnings were way under 0 and showdown winnings way over. Now it is the other way.
Things to watch out for are for example you're opening raise. Lets say you are in EP and raise with QQJTss pot and get reraised you actually do NOT have the odds to call the 3 bet (assuming you are up to AA**). If you min raise instead of a pot raise you DO have the odds to call when being 3 betted. This all of course has to do with the SPR.
If you really are serious to start playing these games I strongly advice you to read the 2 books of Rolf Slotboom. Especially the second 1 is totally explaining the strategy to master the 6 max cap and shallow games.

Maybe you wonder why I stopped plaing these games?
It is pretty easy money yes. But actually it is a totally different game and you do not master the game of PLO. Most deciscions you make are to shove or fold. It is all about playing the aces and try getting in over 25% of you're stack in the pot pre flop with them.
So for now I am trying to master the game of PLO, and stopped playing these games for a while. What I'll be playing in the future totally depends on how my 100bb buy in plo goes.

i know that ps implemented these tables because nl players were complaining about short stackers but i really think this has hurt the PLO games. the 40-100 and the 100-250 games are tougher and full of better regs and more bad players are at the push fold tables where before you had a good mix at the tables and less regs to avoid. having a short stacker or 2 i didnt mind. while annoying when the guy has 20 blinds it can make my decisions easier as well. nl holdem has more player so maybe this change affected them less

i need to play both at the same time. i cant stand jus gettin it in real light in 12 rooms at the same to to 10 bb stacks etc. jus frustrating. i like hte balance of all there types of rooms + a hu or two when 12 tabling

I haven't checked the rake at the 40-100 tables at stars lately. But I've tried 10k hands at 20-50bb tables to get some of dem fpps. And the rake is massive. At 1/2 it's 16.65bb/100..

And I don't know the reg/fish ratio at 40-100bb tables lately either, but at 1/2 20-50bb it is probably on avg 3.5 regs per table.

The problem i've found is there's just not many games running (at least at PLO10) of the 40-100bb tables and there's a ton of action at the 20-50bb tables. I'm sure the rake's higher at 20-50bb tables just because everyone's getting it in every other hand or so and this doesn't happen as often at the 40-100bb tables. It's a complete different game to 40-100bb as you don't get the implied odds aspect if you're playing 50bb effective stacks. Fold equity pretty much goes out the window.

One aspect I struggled with was the mentality of "it's only 20bb to call" and making calls I may not do at the 40-100bb tables as you can kind of take a bit more risk and equities tend to run closer at the short tables. However, decisions are usually made pre-flop or on the flop so it's a different skillset than playing all the streets. Whether or not it's less skilled i'm not sure. But the variance is sick at these tables but maybe it's worth it if there's a ton of fish and people give you action when you hold monsters?

Your edge against the bad players should be greater at the deeper games, but from what I've seen, its impossible to avoid the shallow tables bc they are an overwhelming majority.

So, try to play the deeper games, and fill in the rest with shallow. ez pz AFAIK

Trust me, the NLHE people are not please either. There is a huge thread in the Internet Poker subforum.

It's basically created 2 sets of games, the nit regs on the deep tables and the fish on the shallow tables. Everyone is praying that stars re-evaluates this and changes things in the new year.