2-5plo at a casino

1500ish effective stacks w villain

Hero dealt AA98 w spades in sb

Straddle is action player who IÂ’ve been waiting to 3b as heÂ’s been opening every hand. If I open he will just flat.

I just flat the SB. Straddle obliges to 25 everyone calls I pot to 185 straddle calls and one of the field limpers call (main villain) who I have 0 history.

Flop 732 rainbow w one spade.. I lead pot for 600ish straddle folds and villain jams 1300.

Hero ?

IÂ’m not sure I like my flop sizing as it only gets called by better. My thought process is thereÂ’s a lot of bad turn cards and at spr under 3 and the board being disconnected if IÂ’m not betting AAxx here then IÂ’m checking too many flops.

I feel like bet folding would be way easier if I bet 1/3 pot and got shipped on.

The lowish spr and the random player kinda confused me. Also what two pair combos are even possible on this board? Are sets even possible for nearly 200 pre? Are rundowns even possible?

So he calls every raise pre and plays 100% of hands more or less? I agree betting small on a board like this is probably your ideal strategy - a small bet might get KK/QQ to come along one street, and you're either way ahead or way behind. AA gets very hard to play this deep being OOP

The straddler yes.. but he folded the flop… the main villain is splashy but I have no history and no reason to think he’s getting ool.

You need like 22-23% equity to get in against the raise so that's a no brainer to call. Only question is sizing and I don't hate it because it can't be terrible but there are certainly better sizes besides pot.

SPR is barely over 2 so you need less than 40% on the flop before you bet. Pretty sure you have at least that since 33/22 are extremely unlikely. If he made a loose call with 77 then so be it but the pot is too big on the flop to do anything other than bet-call.

Hope you hit your spades.

This is the main part worth commenting on, IMO. AA98ss isn't exactly an amazing hand, it just has AA in it. From the above it sure sounds like everyone knows two of your cards, and thus. have heavy implied odds if they hit two pair and thus. are super likely to call wide.

IMO you need to be limp/3betting a large part of your range, or just limp/call this hand also. Esp. so this deep and deeper.



FWIW I don't mind bombing this flop, and if you bet half pot to fold I think it just invites bluff raises and betting small just invites correct calls with a random pair. If your pre. range is significantly wider you can bet half pot and have some folds that don't include this hand, but it doesn't sound like that's where we are.

I agree..

IÂ’ve been incorporating limping/flatting the blinds and oop more w AAxx..

This particular hand was strange bc I had been bleeding from this action player opening every hand. So I said to myself IÂ’m going to wait for a better holding and go for 3b or fold squeeze spots.

IÂ’ve noticed in live settings squeeze/iso plays just donÂ’t really work as much because someone else inevitably comes along and ruins it.

Maybe my strat going forwars will be to cbet heads up and check or bet small multi-way.

There is definitely a face up nature to 3b! AA in ploÂ… itÂ’s kinda like raising w AK in holdem. These hands make it hard to play and become face up a lot of the time.

I was also hoping for action player to 4bet me but he flatted and invited player 3. In hind site I donÂ’t like my 3b because the spr was relatively high and it made for awkward stack sizes on the flop. IÂ’d rather get in half my stack or more or just limp. The in between spot makes it very hard to navigate.

Yes I agree…

The problem is every spot in plo where you bet and get raised you’re getting a good price. So the pot odds I got were only because I bet so big on flop.

So the flop sizing is extra bad bc it prices me in on any raise. If I did this on a draw it’s not so bad but w naked AA it seems really bad.

I think this is played well. Pot on the flop is fine, can use a smaller size when you have bet/folds or happen to flop a monster.

Agree with previous comment that having other hands you limp 3bet with is important.

Ok spoiler time….


I called off and the run out came a 5 and then T…

Villain turns over KK32

Fml

Sorry I'm late to the party, but that board is fairly safe for your hand and I'm fine with betting the flop. Once you've bet 600 and opponent jams for 1300 you pretty much have to call I think.

Thx for the reply… your last vlog was excellent, just watched it last night.

On the hand w the huge draw on the turn when you had A87x I like to flat turn and then there’s so many scare cards that will change the texture you can bluff river.

The problem that I'd be cold-calling a bet AND a raise. So if my draws come in, he's unlikely to pay them off. And if my draws whiff, the other scare cards likely help his hand. So the only way I get paid in full for making my draws I think in that spot, is to get it in on the turn. But I think it was a big mistake to continue on the turn facing that action, I was just trying to gamble and get lucky for a huge pot, since I still had a draw to the nuts.

And still think given flop texture and my actual hand, I should be betting the flop. Would've meant me losing $800 to the guy who flopped all three pair, rather than losing $2800 to the guy who turned top set.

Too bad for the spoiler .. There is a method of 'hiding' those on this site if you highlight the text and use the 'SP' fucntion


2) You'll also see where a Player hit one pair and has some other connectivity which gives them enough equity to take on AAxx so they overplay a shove
3) Could also be a slow played AA

Unfortunately in my games Players aren't deep enough where they can (choose to) balance 3-bet ranges beyond super strong holdings, so they become a target for the callers. The positive to this is you can make exploitative folds 'comfortably' when you are played back at. Not so sure I'm ever folding to this Board either, but there are others.

I'm not a 'pot' heavy bettor so my thoughts are skewed perhaps, but I like a bet of 300-360 here. If you get one caller you have basically 'pot' behind, which is max leverage going to the River. I guess my thought is to get some 'value' on the Turn and then really make them think going to the River. Players tend to be much stickier with two cards to come and if you bet closer to pot on the Flop they will go into 'there's just too much out there mode' on the Turn getting the better price going into the River.

You see the 'you want them to call' conversations, but I'll take a fold on the Turn in PLO most any time.

You can see where targeting a certain Player from out of position can turn on you here. I like to mix in various plays with AAxx from early positions so that my 3-bers, or even just 'pot' opening bets with straddles in play aren't always AA/KK. I definitely open too much and 3-bet too little .. GL

I would be a multi-billionaire by now if hands ended on the turn instead of the river :P

Yup in plo as a 2-1 favorite and betting pot it’s ev neutral for them to call so I will always take folds ott