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07-20-2008 , 11:11 PM

No One

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Villain seems pretty straightforward/rather tight....What do you all think?

Poker Stars $5/$10 Pot Limit Omaha Hi - 6 players
The Official 2+2 Hand Converter Powered By DeucesCracked.com

BB: $200.00
UTG: $1000.00
MP: $2999.10
CO: $1274.00
BTN: $1747.80
Hero (SB): $2919.90

Pre Flop: Hero is SB with A

1 fold, MP raises to $35, CO raises to $120, 1 fold, Hero calls $115, 1 fold, MP calls $85

Flop: ($370.00) 5

(3 players)
Hero checks, MP checks, CO bets $367

Hero: ?????

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07-20-2008 , 11:21 PM

BananaBalla

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Given description, flop is an easy fold.

I prob 3bet this though, as I think your Aces are def. strong enough to put some mroe money in, and try and get heads up vs. CO

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07-20-2008 , 11:41 PM

Cr@ckers717

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i dont agree with fold, what part of his range has connected with this flop?? not a lot i would think. What is the villians perception of you??? I would prob repot it feel there is a lot of FE

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07-21-2008 , 01:06 AM

soup nazi

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wtf 4 bet. you cant check raise this flop cause mp is likely gonna check raise the 3 better if he hit the flop. you screwed yourself imo

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07-21-2008 , 01:07 AM

soup nazi

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Originally Posted by Cr@ckers717

i dont agree with fold, what part of his range has connected with this flop?? not a lot i would think. What is the villians perception of you??? I would prob repot it feel there is a lot of FE

not this

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07-21-2008 , 02:21 AM

fitnessfreak

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surely you have to 4bet this preflop. chances are you will get headsup with the CO with enough money in there to make the flop very easy to play (ie. shove). even if MP does call, CO will prob either shove, in which case you can reshove or if CO just calls MP is gonna be forced to play pretty straightforward being stuck in the middle.

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07-21-2008 , 02:25 AM

fitnessfreak

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Originally Posted by Cr@ckers717

i dont agree with fold, what part of his range has connected with this flop?? not a lot i would think. What is the villians perception of you??? I would prob repot it feel there is a lot of FE

i would be pretty confident that the only hands you would fold out are worse ones with a flop CR.

origfinally i thought c/f the flop is best, but how about making a goofy smallish bet? it puts MP in a really terrible spot, forcing him to play straightforward or invest a big chunk of cash on a highly risky bluff, and could force the CO to spew with worse.

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07-21-2008 , 02:48 AM

mixmastermattyk

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I think a big part of this is what range your opponents think you will cold-call a 3-bet with.
Depending on this answer I guess you could try to represent a rundown like 5678 or something like that. As others have said I definitely prefer a 4-bet preflop. It makes all your decisions a lot easier, unless for some reason MP decides to call and CO doesn't push. Other than that scenario, it's going to be a lot easier for you to play.

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07-21-2008 , 02:57 AM

chinaski101

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Everyone is just gonna tell you to 4 bet pre. The hand would be pretty straight forward if you did.

I think i may now do something strange like minraise, or raise to 900 to get the cutoff out of there. If he shows interest you'll have to fold.

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07-21-2008 , 03:34 AM

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yellowsub

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ya nothin rly to discuss on this one

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07-21-2008 , 03:35 AM

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chinaski101

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Oh yeah, reraising is also dependable on MP styleee.

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07-21-2008 , 07:20 AM

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Recon20k

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CO could easily have KK .. but surely this is a snap fold given that the MP has you covered and will jam any set or 678x type hand (i assume). When that happens what are you gonna do?

I take it you were hoping to flop a fd since you didnt 4 bet preflop. And since you didnt 4 bet pre i think you have set yourself up to fold most flops ... fold.

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07-21-2008 , 07:22 AM

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Recon20k

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Originally Posted by fitnessfreak

origfinally i thought c/f the flop is best, but how about making a goofy smallish bet? it puts MP in a really terrible spot, forcing him to play straightforward or invest a big chunk of cash on a highly risky bluff, and could force the CO to spew with worse.

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