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11-26-2008 , 06:35 PM
Poker Stars $0.50/$1 Pot Limit Omaha Hi - 6 players
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CO: $120.50
BTN: $107.00
Hero (SB): $105.55
BB: $145.95
UTG: $428.80
MP: $331.85

Pre Flop: ($1.50) Hero is SB with A 5 A Q
3 folds, BTN raises to $3.50, Hero raises to $11, BB calls $10, BTN calls $7.50

Flop: ($33.00) 6 2 9 (3 players)
Hero bets $31, BB raises to $124.35, BTN calls $96 all in

This is probably an insta-call but BTN is a nit and 3-ways I really dislike my chances. What do you think. Sorry this is a bit boring...
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11-26-2008 , 06:54 PM
This is an insta fold IMO, if you had the nut flush draw as well then it would be a call.

But the BB is calling with run down hands and with your read that the button is a nit then muck it and feel wonderful.

The only thing here is you may be pot stuck, but I doubt it if the BTN calls a reraise all in on this flop and is a nit.

Fold IMO, if either has a set you have close to NO equity
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11-26-2008 , 08:03 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by BillCraven

you have close to NO equity
Just remember that don't happen in PLO hehe.

Pre 3bet is no good. Flop b/f is fine I think.
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11-26-2008 , 08:32 PM
commited w/ an over pair?

lol

this isn't NL sir


snap fold, not close, probably don't even cbet that flop oop vs 2 players more than like 25% of the time... obv different if you at least have NFD or had like AA69 ds, AA78ds, both of which are way better than what you have @ least.

i mean, you have a BD wheel draw that's totally unreliable, and a BD FD... you have minimal equity in this hand vs both of their ranges. not to mention you're hand's pretty much face up, they both put you on AA and have still taken their respective lines.
i think you're too far behind too often to make stacking off here profitable.


i'm probably only firing like 22-25 as a cbet if i even choose to at all.

3bet more than just AA otherwise you're incredibly exploitable and you're gonna get owned post flop by good regs.


JMO
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11-26-2008 , 08:44 PM
I think you're pretty close to being pot committed at this point.

Maybe calling and folding are neutral EV here.
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11-26-2008 , 09:15 PM
Bluff call with the bare Ac imo

But seriously this def inst as close as Ship and Bill are suggesting, there are so many wraps/FDs that youre just not that big of a dog agaisnt.

Having said that, i'll still fold here.
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11-26-2008 , 09:28 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by BillCraven
This is an insta fold IMO, if you had the nut flush draw as well then it would be a call.
O RLY?
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11-26-2008 , 09:30 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by ZingyDNA
Pre 3bet is no good.
I 3-bet aggro button raisers with quite a wide range... do you still think its no good? I wouldn't 3-bet it if it was not suited.
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11-26-2008 , 11:39 PM
without reads it's a fold. Most people play straight forward in 3bet pots ESP OOP. The action says u don't have the best hand or best draw. however, u put in 40% of ur stack in by the flop. Ur pretty much committed here as getting 40% of 100bb stack in by the flop and folding is pretty bad as well. If u had even a gutter to go along with it u can push and pray but ur hand is tooweak to stand any heat 3 way. That's what happens w/ crap aces. I'm not 3 bettin g this hand.
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11-27-2008 , 12:01 AM
I think its a call, although u kind of made it one
set draw, bkdoor flush draw, bkdoor str8 draw and a 2 draw
I don't really like the pot lead though
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11-27-2008 , 12:44 AM
This board's too coordinated for betting to be good multi-way. Just check/fold on the flop.

Preflop 3-bet's super standard unless you're a TAP nit.
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11-27-2008 , 01:06 AM
I like the 3bet PF since theyre suited, but I think you can check fold once the BB calls.
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11-27-2008 , 01:21 AM
getting 4-1 now. thats kinda yummy. probably break-even with any luck.

You did ask for it though.
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11-27-2008 , 02:33 PM
standard c/fold... even with the ace of clubs in your hand.
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11-27-2008 , 04:37 PM
Yeah my thought was c/f too.
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11-27-2008 , 04:43 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Nicotine Dreams
standard c/fold... even with the ace of clubs in your hand.
this
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11-27-2008 , 06:08 PM
bleh check-fold sissys... lol
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11-27-2008 , 06:10 PM
C/f as played.

LOL @ not three betting this pre...
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11-28-2008 , 12:29 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by gavz101
bleh check-fold sissys... lol
so running hearts then right?
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11-28-2008 , 01:12 AM
i dont like preflop or the flop lead

as played its an insta fold to the raise + flat tho
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11-28-2008 , 01:13 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Aceholio
C/f as played.

LOL @ not three betting this pre...
we have a pretty uncoordinated one way hand and will be in the worst possible position postflop. what does 3betting accomplish?
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11-28-2008 , 09:48 AM
I usually flat aces like this from the blinds but I dont mind the raise vs a BTN first-in-raise.

dont bet flop, fold as played.
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