Hero covers everyone

Button straddle 10
Hero QdQs9d2h
Hero completes in BB
Raise to 50
Hero calls
5 players

Pot $250

Flop q39ss
Hero checks
Original raiser bets 200 (1200 left)
Button flats (2100 left)
Hero raises 1050
Original raiser folds
Button calls (1300 left)

Pot $2550
Turn Js
Hero pots Putting button all in for his last 1300


If I check and he pots I need 25% to call. I believe I have 21% if he has always has a flush. Maybe off chance he folds smaller flushes although unlikely. But mainly he folds his jt wraps without spades.

I think ch/r flop is a mistake here. We are blocking our own boat outs and nearly half of the deck is bad for us. As played I think we need not much of a FE in order to jam profitably so I would have jammed.

fold pre

Hard to fold PF when you close action, but Flopping sets is hard ... and winning with is even harder. But I'm probably calling at this price ... as long as I can keep under control post-Flop.

Top set looks so good, but against both a wrap and flush Board I'm not so sure I get too involved until a safe Turn comes out ... too 'difficult' to be first to act on Turn and River when scare cards come out AND you may not get paid either if you bet your FH should you hit one. You may get AAxx to stick around, but once you get one caller then you get 1-2 more at most PLO tables ... and then you are 'exposed'.

Tough spot on Turn with B only having 1/2 pot behind. You almost have to shove here AP, but you really are only folding out hands you beat already ... maybe some 8-T high flushes that also had wraps and are giving you LOTS of credit. GL

Actually we have the field to act behind us, which is why I recommend a fold despite the juicy pot odds. In a very passive game we could call. With a button straddle action starts with SB, hence why hero's complete is listed first in the actions taken, not last.


Needless to say we are happy to put 1k in the middle on this flop, although I wouldn't be surprised if betting was better than check raising in the long run.

We only have the field behind us when we limp the straddle. OR is not B as laid out in OP, IMO. It is possible that a Player or two is between H and OR, that is not clear ... I just took it that H closed action on the OR to 50 ... GL

PS ... Obv we have to consider that we are OOP for the rest of the hand, but IMO H does close action PF.

Hero has two actions preflop and neither of them are closing the action, in theory or in practice.

I either call twice or fold once preflop - good advice, in general, I'm so confused when I see people overlimp not closing the action and then fold closing the action getting like 4-1 or something. There should be no hands in that range.

Whether I call pre or not depends mostly on how much I respect button, and less so on how much I respect the other limpers.

Given stacks, flop c/r is the only move, as with only one caller we can profitably jam 100% of turns. We're actually closing the action now; if we weren't, we could be a sneaky sneak and hope that the guy behinds us reopens the action if we flat, but we're OOP so given the choice of playing with a lot of dangerous turns vs our top set in an $850 pot with $2300 left or a $2550 (or $3550 potentially!) pot with $1300 left is a very, very easy choice.

Not to mention the insane amount of value we lose when he has second set or a hand like QJT9 and the flush comes in. As played villain will have to call it off with a set anyway. Not c/ring this flop for pot would be a huge mistake.

Any suggestion plan with top set on flush draw + straight draw + 3way + oop? Thanks

I think the results-oriented posts you’ve gotten so far would make sense if you were deeper and had one more pot-sized bet behind. Not sure what the exact SPR and player ratio combination would be where slowplaying flop makes sense and that would be an interesting discussion. Given your turn price versus only one caller even and boat outs CR flop looks best to me. You might fold out straight draws that would be +ev to call turn as mentioned. Occasionally but rarely a skittish player with a small flush too you’re right. And should still get called by sets. You also got the most you could versus weird passive two pair that would have shut down on the turn anyway.