Can mods split PLO and 5 card into two different headings? - Page 2 - Small Stakes Pot Limit Omaha

Has a crowding out effect, obviously I’m not the only person who thinks so. And I don’t think the number of threads reflects popularity, just a couple of guys who post a lot

Yeah I get the fact that you can see something clearly noted as five card but when clicking the first page and often dominated by 5 card real PLO players don’t swing by or post as often

I'm guessing these people who think so aren't posting very much so are causing the problem themselves. Just step up your game! That would be a very silly reason not to read or post as often though.

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05-23-2023 , 01:02 AM

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I'm guessing these people who think so aren't posting very much so are causing the problem themselves. Just step up your game! That would be a very silly reason not to read or post as often though.

Lol at stepping up the game. When log into the site and see a whole bunch of 5 card hands everyone is just like “meh” and gets out of the habit of looking. And some of those posters were great.

Anyway 5 card PLO not taking over the world. No games in LA, Vegas, Philly, AZ, Atlantic City, CT…just a few places where people are known to play poker!

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05-23-2023 , 01:44 AM

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Have those great posters told you the reason they're not posting anymore is because they don't like the 5 card posts being on the same page? Because honestly that seems like such a ridiculous reason that I have hard time believing any good poster would drop off the forum due to that.

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05-23-2023 , 02:06 AM

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Yes. If some place is cluttered with chit you have no interest in it seems reasonable enough to me.

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05-23-2023 , 02:49 AM

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Well those people sound very small minded to me.

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05-23-2023 , 03:19 AM

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Well those people sound very small minded to me.

Don’t you worry, we’ll find a nice landing spot for the 5 carders

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05-23-2023 , 07:24 AM

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Based on volume of posts, if any posts need to move to Other Poker, shouldn't it be the 4 card threads?

(Fun fact: 20 years ago limit holdem was the most popular form of public poker by a wide margin.)

Everyone just wants whatever view suits their own preferences. And that's fine! It's 2023 and we should each be able to customize.

See project issues on GitHub for an example of tag-based queries.

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05-23-2023 , 09:47 AM

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No. But there are good people hanging out in Other Poker should it be where the extra card people go. Or a little sub directly in Omaha

No tags for me pls

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06-02-2023 , 01:54 PM

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Hi everyone. I apologize that I was unaware of this thread. The short story is that I am (and have been for a long time) the mod of the O8 forum. Even though my name appears in red, I was not aware that, when the forums were rearranged (or at some point thereafter), I also became the only mod of the O forum itself.

As an initial matter, there should another moderator added -- someone who is a regular in the Omaha threads/forum. If you have any suggestions, please PM them to me, or you can start a thread if you'd rather have the discussion in that manner.

I have always disliked the infiltration of so many 5-card threads into what was a 4-card game, as I don't play 5-card and don't have any intention of doing so. But I assumed that I'm an old man who's behind the times, and that the 5-card game is what all the cool kids are playing, so I never considered a split.

If there is enough volume in this forum for a split, I'd be all for splitting 4-card and 5-card into separate forums, if that's what people want. I don't know that there are enough posts in O8 to have separate 4-card and 5-card forums, but I'm happy to be convinced that that's wrong.

It can difficult to the browse the forum (which means less traffic) due to the mix of 5 and 4 card. It might be a good idea to require posters to insert a tag like [plo5] and [plo] to make browsing easier, but it's a pain to enforce that without enough mods and users can get annoyed.

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06-02-2023 , 02:29 PM

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The argument for splitting them is because many 4 card PLO players no longer come here like they used to because most of the threads aren’t applicable. I fall into that category as I’m sure others do as well.

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I don't visit as often anymore.

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06-02-2023 , 05:38 PM

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+1

I don't visit as often anymore.

Do you really find it particularly difficult to just visit and read the threads you want to read and skip the ones you don't? The vast majority of the 5 card posts have a 5 card hand clearly named in the thread title.

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06-02-2023 , 07:19 PM

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I think the forum is too dead to split. What I'd like to see is some line check threads. I understand that this will kill the overall thread count in the forum, but there are plenty of times where I have a quick question but not enough content to start a new thread.

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06-02-2023 , 08:48 PM

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Agreed and anyone can start one right?

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06-03-2023 , 11:13 AM

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Separation makes the forum more concise and that eliminates the need to weed through it. 5 card is a variant. O8 is a variant. 6 card hold'em is a variant of hold'em

My point is obviously that other poker variants have separate forums, 5 card Omaha should as well.

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06-03-2023 , 11:26 AM

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Aside from "I don't like a tagging solution," (voiced once or twice here) can someone support a better idea to allow customized views?

Because breaking everything down atomically doesn't scale. Some of us who play multiple games already have a dozen of forums of interest as it stands now. Adding more without some view to aggregate them is just making all of it less navigable.

I guess I'll change my abstention to a no vote. Keep them together until/unless there is an aggregation solution on the site.

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06-03-2023 , 11:28 AM

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Years ago I think it said your could subscribe to forums but I only ever figured out subscribing to threads. Hopefully I'm missing a feature that already exists.

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06-03-2023 , 11:56 AM

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Originally Posted by chillrob

Just skimmed the first 25 posts. 9 of them were clearly plo5. 2 were clearly plo4/plo6. 2 might be considered general or semi-vague. The rest were vague and you'd need to click through.

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06-03-2023 , 11:57 AM

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Aside from "I don't like a tagging solution," (voiced once or twice here) can someone support a better idea to allow customized views?

I think tagging is fine, but it requires additional mod effort which seems to be in short supply.

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06-03-2023 , 12:20 PM

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Lol you are really tying to stand your ground on this

But multiple people are telling you directly they don’t come around that often because of variants being posted

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06-03-2023 , 12:29 PM

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Yeah, it certainly sours me as a PLO 4 player to click on the Omaha thread, click on a post not being entirely sure what variant it is, and then see the dreaded 5th hole card in the HH.

If a website you were using for a separate purpose suddenly only posted information that was 50-60% relevant to you, wouldn't anyone be frustrated to the point where they wouldn't want to use it anymore, and reasonably so?

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06-03-2023 , 09:13 PM

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This is such an easy decision. What the hell is going on? Can we get this pushed through?

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06-04-2023 , 12:38 AM

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Just skimmed the first 25 posts. 9 of them were clearly plo5. 2 were clearly plo4/plo6. 2 might be considered general or semi-vague. The rest were vague and you'd need to click through.

How many of those vague ones were not regular 4 card PLO?
It was probably almost none. If so, that refutes your argument. Have you actually been clicking on a lot of threads only to be upset that they were about a slightly different game than your had expected?

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06-04-2023 , 12:40 AM

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Lol you are really tying to stand your ground on this

But multiple people are telling you directly they don’t come around that often because of variants being posted

And I believe have already said what I thought of those people and what should be done with their opinions.

If I didn't state the latter clearly, it was because I didn't want to use insulting language, but I'm sure you can imagine.

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06-04-2023 , 12:41 AM

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No?

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06-04-2023 , 01:46 AM

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I didn't check because I literally didn't feel like clicking through to check, as is the case with most posters. They're not all always one or the other, and that's the problem.

At one point I was looking for plo5 because that's what I have live, and now I'm looking at plo4 since that's what I have access to on Global Poker. So I've been in both spots.

It just seems like you're arguing for the sake for arguing which is a little weird.

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