Many of the threads under Omaha are for 5 card, as opposed to 4 card. I don't play 5 card and I'm assuming many other PLO players don't play 5 card (often because it isn't spread where they live). Any chance mods can set up two different headings where each game's threads are listed? They are basically two totally different games in my opinion. I've quit coming here that often because many of the threads aren't applicable to what I play.

I'd second this motion.

+1

Bump

As both variants grow in popularity, this makes complete sense.

Add my +1 to this as well.

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Yes please

please split off 5 card omaha.

One look at the forum makes this more needed every day.

Are the mods not reading the forum? SOME kind of reply would be welcome!

Mods don't listen to anything. That is why this forum is a shell of what it used to be.

Bumping this to see if this thread even has a mod that monitors it. All the PLO players have left because you won't split 5 card and 4 card into different headings. Dumb on your part. Rant over.

You're asking in the wrong place I think. New thread started here: https://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/5.../#post58126534

niss is the mod of this forum. Try PMing him as he is really busy with the spammers most of the time, so I'm sure he doesn't read all the threads unless someone reports something.

I'm thinking that at least they can add 4 card and 5 card to the thread tags if nothing else, maybe.

Hi everyone. I apologize that I was unaware of this thread. The short story is that I am (and have been for a long time) the mod of the O8 forum. Even though my name appears in red, I was not aware that, when the forums were rearranged (or at some point thereafter), I also became the only mod of the O forum itself.

As an initial matter, there should another moderator added -- someone who is a regular in the Omaha threads/forum. If you have any suggestions, please PM them to me, or you can start a thread if you'd rather have the discussion in that manner.

I have always disliked the infiltration of so many 5-card threads into what was a 4-card game, as I don't play 5-card and don't have any intention of doing so. But I assumed that I'm an old man who's behind the times, and that the 5-card game is what all the cool kids are playing, so I never considered a split.

If there is enough volume in this forum for a split, I'd be all for splitting 4-card and 5-card into separate forums, if that's what people want. I don't know that there are enough posts in O8 to have separate 4-card and 5-card forums, but I'm happy to be convinced that that's wrong.

There’s definitely enough volume for a 5 card forum - just look at the posts and you’ll see that 5 card is dominating this forum now.

Double board is even farther from standard Omaha than 5 card is. Why not create a separate forum for that game, or at least move those posts to "other poker?"

I would vote against splitting them up.

Double board is commonly played at PLO high games.

Much more rare to mix 5 card & 4 card PLO at the same table

The argument for splitting them is because many 4 card PLO players no longer come here like they used to because most of the threads aren’t applicable. I fall into that category as I’m sure others do as well.

I don't have standing because I hardly post here and see validity of both sides. What I do strongly advocate is moving to some sort of "tag-based" message board system.

Let's say you want to read threads about 4 card PLO, and also about NLHE. You play $1-2, $1-3, and $1-2-(5), so you don't want to read high stakes. Some days you might add in $2-5 for both. You don't play 5-card, but some days you're curious enough to want to add it to your reading list. Most days no. Oh, and you only want read about full ring live, not online games.

So that's a bunch of permutations! It would be absurd to have forums like "Low stakes 5-card PLO live" and "Medium stakes 5-card PLO live" and "Low stakes 5-card PLO online" and "Low stakes 4-card PLO live" etc. etc. No one would have time to browse 45 forums out of 1000 on the site. But it would be really useful to have a view you could customize on any or all of those dimensions. Show me everything with:

tag: "low stakes" -- or tag: "1-2" and "1-3" and "1-2-5 to bring in"
tag: "PL" or "NL"
tag: "4 card Omaha high" or "hold'em"
tag: "live"
tag "full ring"


I don't think you can do that now. I don't really mind splitting the forums, but it doesn't address the sort of use case that we would probably all benefit from.

Yeah, put me in there as well. Might get more posts with 4 card back again. Right now it's dwarfed by a few posters who play a lot of 5 card and post a lot.

Double Board probably belongs in Other Poker. But just speaking for myself wouldn't mind where it went.

As a side note, I consider any variant where you get more cards than traditional is Other Poker. That would include Big O and Super Stud 8b

I'm going to stick my neck out and opine that 5-card Omaha has more in common with 4-card Omaha than it does with triple-draw 2-7 or razzdugi. But I've already said my piece with the tag idea, so if that can't be done I guess we're just balancing traffic-per-forum in ways logical or illogical.

Yeah I guess I don’t care about much about how much it has in common with something else. Limit holdem is actually over there in Other Poker too.

But the 5 card effectively stopped much of the discussion on real PLO. Put it in Sports section or wherever, don’t care lol

How would having threads about 5 card stop discussion about 4 card?
Likely 5 card is gaining in popularity while 4 card is losing. The threads are normally clearly noted as 5 card so you don't have to read them if you don't want to, but I can't I imagine why anyone wouldn't. They're almost the same game, basically all the same strategies apply, and you could prepare yourself for if you're somewhere that only has 5 card.

Has a crowding out effect, obviously I’m not the only person who thinks so. And I don’t think the number of threads reflects popularity, just a couple of guys who post a lot

Yeah I get the fact that you can see something clearly noted as five card but when clicking the first page and often dominated by 5 card real PLO players don’t swing by or post as often