Hi Guys,

7 handed bomb pot at my local private card room. $20 bomb pot.
$1/$2
Effective stacks villain and me $1300 effective.
Pot: ($140.00)

Hand: (As 3s 8s 8c)

Flop1: 8d 7h 6c
Flop 2: Ac 9s 10s

I flop top set and nut flush draw so we're nut drawing on both boards.

I'm UTG and pot it.
UTG +1 re-pots to $560.00.
Everyone else folds.
I re-pot we get it all in.

As Im OOP should i just be checking 100% of my range here until, say the CO, when I can lead? In which case is the play always to be check raising from EP in these spots? 100BB I don't think getting it all it can be bad but 200BB+ my line seems completely spew.

Should I be check calling or check raising going forward?

Thanks.

I agree with your point on stack depth. Given you’re non nutted on both, this is a very precarious spot.

The other question is what hands you could be exposed to and in big trouble against. If the boards are uncoordinated, it means that V needs some very specific 4 card combos. But in this case since the boards are quite connected, all he needs is 9 - 10 and you’re in big trouble.

9x10x was what i was hoping for. Check call seems to be better play going forward 200BB deep.

Why was 9-10 what you were hoping for? Isn't this amongst his most dominating holdings? What are the other hands he could have that are more troubling for you?

Def a x/c OTF as you want to entice some extra chips into the pot and you're not nutted OOP. Flatting while closing the action is not super strong .. yet .. but it may be hard to get paid depending on the runout. Having 9/T on the bottom Board is both good and bad ..

AP you just GII. Who's folding for 800 OTT? Once it folds around and your HU just GII and hold on.

Bomb pots are all about the dead money and nut draws .. and hopefully both. GL

9x9x5x type hands. My equity drops to 30% vs that holding.

9x10x vs the nut flush draw im flipping, even vs a wrap.
AxAx i think he takes the same line meaning im way ahead on one board.

As soon as he has sets vs my nut flush im 30% equity.

True, If he has 9-10 with another helpful card, we're in really deep trouble. 995, 99T are brutal.

9T has a double edge .. holding 9T means less likely to boat bottom (and counterfeit a flush) while not blocking on top for boats. To your point you have to beat two made hands on at least one Board for minimal return on a lot of BB.

V holding 76s with a made straight on top somehow (9x) would be a tough hill to climb, but also would make it more likely to be ahead on the bottom currently .. and you block the 8s.

We all can see heart break in these hands .. made straight on top holds and they hit a dangler on bottom for two pair to scoop. GL

I have a tendency to overdo it when it comes to the gambling side of bomb pots, but FWIW I think your play is fine, however it depends a bit on your reads. In my regular game, there is a player against whom I would actually consider mucking my hand when he raises me on this flop, for example. But many players will GII here with, for example, AAxx w/ some type of draw on the top board etc. Him playing it this fast I would say that he actually is more likely to have an AAxx type of hand with some sort of connectivity to the top board. Of course, AAT9 is not out of the question and that would be really bad for us, but on the other hand, he could play something like A977 or AQJ9 in a similar fashion, especially if he has some sort of spades or whatever.

I really don´t mind a check OOP on the flop though and then taking it from there, will give us more info and options on what to do with the hand. But as played, unless we perceive our opponent as being really nitty, I think we need to go with it.

I don't like starting with a pot, but GII as played.

Our hands want to keep worse hands in that lose when we make boats/flush.

My very ignorant and uninformed opinion: position is backwards in bomb pots. I prefer to bet my strong-but-vulnerable hands in early position, because it drives out all these villains who have great equity on 1 board, but are too smart to play for just 1/2 a pot.

In later positions, the situation is reversed: if other players offer me free cards, I'm more inclined to gather the information of another street & another round of betting before I have to commit chips.

I would start with a check call. Free cards aren’t so bad as we can cooler someone when we hit nut flush or nut boat as well some free roll opportunities. I also want everyone in when that happens.

Our hand looks good on each board but our equity isn’t amazing against 99/TT or even aces up. Those 99/TT hands could also have nut straight. When it goes this multi way (ie a bomb pot) the nuts are out there a lot. Tread carefully.

check/call flop is only reasonable play.

Turn play is more interesting. Multiway you have to play fairly straightforward, just lead pot on any pair on top board or flush on bottom. Heads up you can often get away with representing other stuff, depending on villain.