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Beginner's Question: Chasing A Full House Beginner's Question: Chasing A Full House

07-02-2010 , 06:49 PM
Coming from an MTT PL perspective, what odds do I need, or would settle for, to call a bet from a made nut flush on the flop/on the turn when holding a set and filling up will likely result in winning a few bets more?

I would normally be happy to call a half-pot bet on the flop - I would think about calling on the turn. Is that OK?
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07-02-2010 , 10:35 PM
say you hold



9910j:club


on a 925 6 board and our opponet holds AKxx


you have 10 outs on the turn to pair the board. we know 4 of the cards in our hand plus 4 of the cards on the board.


there are a total of 16 9,2,5, 6s there are 4 on the board and 2 in our hand. that makes 10 outs assuming your 99xx has no 2 5 6 or six and if it does then subtract those.

so we need 10/44 cards so that is ~23% so around 4-1. also you are assuming implied odds which this is obv a very generic question but plo players are definitely capable of folding the nf on a paired board especially when your hand is face up like you are drawing to it so don't count on getting a lot of the hand in the long run. also, be careful of undersets in this situation. consider we hold 99xx on a A109 4 board it is very possible our villian can hold AA 6 2 and have a redraw to the nut full house. basically you just have to be aware of the combos that ppl can hold and you're not always good there when the board pairs.


consider the board pairs in our second situation. and opponet leads out for a pot sized bet. you should definitely consider flat calling because we would be forced to fold to a reraise.


basically if you are doing this make sure its with a good set lol .
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07-02-2010 , 10:38 PM
cash is fine 4-1 but in a mtt 4-1 is only even money. we want to get our money in better then even so even if you get odds its a marginal situation at best in the hypothetical situation we know exactly what he holds. basically just try to hit hands were you have excellent equity no matter what cards come out and play them hard lol .
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07-04-2010 , 11:34 AM
Thanks, flash, appreciate the response.
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