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Awkward spot with top2 in multiway pot Awkward spot with top2 in multiway pot

02-11-2010 , 03:21 PM
iPoker, $10.00/20.00 Omaha Cash Games, 6 Players
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Beanmachine is a really laggy good regular with att to steal 52%. colinma888 a fish, 94/23. Sourcream a fish aswell 63/8, with and AF of 2.3.
All this considered my pf call is fairly standard. I'm a little worried tho when Sourcream leads into the field, dont really have specific reads on him and its tough cause im oop. What do you think?

Board:
colinma888 (Button): $2,039
HERO (SB): $1,977
Sourcream10 (BB): $2,057.28
Play4Fame (UTG): $2,027
Madgamler (UTG+1): $1,903.50
BeanMachine11 (CO): $1,990

Dealt to HERO K 5 6 A

Pre-flop:
(2 folds), BeanMachine11 raises to $70, colinma888 calls $70, HERO calls $60, Sourcream10 calls $50

Flop: ($280) 6 4 K (4 Players)
HERO checks, Sourcream10 bets $280, (2 folds), HERO
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02-11-2010 , 03:33 PM
pot. Makes life easier. Folding is out and calling wont probably be much more ev. If they have sets screw them.
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02-11-2010 , 05:16 PM
Lead for 240? As played id prob call but Im not sure how good that is either since theres a ton of ****ty turn cards and given he potted into a 4 way pot hell almost positively be betting big again on most turn cards. Weird spot
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02-11-2010 , 05:18 PM
cry, every option sucks.
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02-11-2010 , 06:05 PM
I always just snap get it in here... And realize that probably sucks more than I think it would.
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02-11-2010 , 06:15 PM
looks like somewhere i always jam but have ****ty equity against a passive players range for betting into 4 people
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02-11-2010 , 07:17 PM
Would never check the flop here, you're giving free cards every time you're ahead and putting yourself in awkward spots every time someone bets behind you.
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02-11-2010 , 08:03 PM
repot PF.
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02-11-2010 , 08:14 PM
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Originally Posted by 2345r
pot. Makes life easier. Folding is out and calling wont probably be much more ev. If they have sets screw them.
Wouldn't this be one of those cases where they'd only call with a set? I don't know, I'm a noob at this game...
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02-12-2010 , 05:01 AM
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Originally Posted by iggymcfly
Would never check the flop here, you're giving free cards every time you're ahead and putting yourself in awkward spots every time someone bets behind you.
are you suggesting bet/fold or bet/arrriiin...?

I kinda like your line aswell, as we can betfold quite a few turns and feel good about it IMO
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02-12-2010 , 05:57 AM
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Originally Posted by iggymcfly
Would never check the flop here, you're giving free cards every time you're ahead and putting yourself in awkward spots every time someone bets behind you.
This.

I think bet/fold is fine. If the bad players are passive, you are probably either flipping or crushed when raised big. When raised by the laggy player, you can jam as he prolly have wider range. I would prefer bet/call if you had any extra equity like gutshot or BDFD.

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02-12-2010 , 06:08 AM
leading out yourself is of course an option but its a close spot and I wouldnt even hate c/f this as played.
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02-12-2010 , 10:09 AM
100% i lead here. But if i check, only to check jam here...
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02-12-2010 , 10:32 AM
For all those saying they lead here, do you do this with your kkk, 666, and huggggge draws? Or go for the check raise? I think its fine if you lead with all of them, but pretty exploitable if you only lead with your semi decent hands and check raise the rest.

I probably check raise in your spot now. I dont really think you can call, given the turn is almost always going to be ugly and youre oop.
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02-12-2010 , 10:52 AM
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Originally Posted by chinaski101
For all those saying they lead here, do you do this with your kkk, 666, and huggggge draws? Or go for the check raise? I think its fine if you lead with all of them, but pretty exploitable if you only lead with your semi decent hands and check raise the rest.

I probably check raise in your spot now. I dont really think you can call, given the turn is almost always going to be ugly and youre oop.
Don't really have to worry about exploitability with 2 fishes in the hand..
But what I see as the problem with leading, assuming we are lead/folding, is people will be shipping tons of stuff that we are flipping or atleast close to flipping against also. And often will atleast one player just call and we have to see a turn oop with sorta crappy stacksizes (i guess still deep enough for some turn bet/folds)

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Originally Posted by lwrunner103
repot PF.
Really, why? we shut out the fish in the bb and are going to the flop with a crappy hand oop in a 3way 3bet pot. I guess we are a few % ahead of their range pf, but I dont think its enough for all the misstakes we are gonna make postflop, compared to the EV of playing this hand multiway against some weak opposition
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02-12-2010 , 11:35 AM
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Originally Posted by Jeans
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Originally Posted by lwrunner103
repot PF.
Really, why? we shut out the fish in the bb and are going to the flop with a crappy hand oop in a 3way 3bet pot. I guess we are a few % ahead of their range pf, but I dont think its enough for all the misstakes we are gonna make postflop, compared to the EV of playing this hand multiway against some weak opposition
Yeah, when i first saw "repot pre" i thought lol wat a donkey play. But when you think about it, its far better than calling pre, ... why ? ... your hand is a piece of $h!t (AhKd2h7d i could excuse) and playing passive poker oop to 3 other players is a worse proposition than playing oop to 2 players with the betting lead.
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02-12-2010 , 11:37 AM
if you would have any idea what sourcream has then c-calling oop would be better.

pls explain what do you think is sours range and if u c-call then what turns are you c raising leading x folding if all others fold?
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02-12-2010 , 01:56 PM
I don't think this hand is crappy at all.
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02-12-2010 , 02:19 PM
not really great either..
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02-12-2010 , 02:21 PM
3bet pre i like. as played c/r.
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02-13-2010 , 02:04 PM
if you check is a cf rly that terrible?
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