In this hand I put the 10 straddle, and loose 100% VPIP dude on my left put the 20 double straddle.

Hero (straddle1): PLO noob, $2000
V1 (straddle2): loose 100% VPIP dude, $1100
V2 (MP): seemingly competent, $800
V3 (BTN): probably the best player at the table, covers

V2 opens $75, V3 calls, Hero 3bets $325 with AdQhTdTh, V1 calls, V2 calls, V3 calls

Flop: 5c6d8d ($1300)

Hero?

I never play PLO, I assume that pre flop is standard? Honestly I’m not surprised to get cold called by V1 or to have the other players call.

OTF SPR is so low, and I have the NFD + an overpair, should I just jam and hope to get folds from some JJx type hands, or called by pair+draw hands? Worst case I have my ~9 outs versus a flopped straight, set, or two pair. Would checking be a mistake here?

While 3! is ok this hand also plays great as a flat, especially since we are happy to keep fish in.

As played would just jam the flop but think its close vs check-call.

Main reason I prefer jam is we can knock out some equity from medium-strength hands including better overpairs and if it checks through we will have to fold a lot of turns vs a pot-size bet.

Agree with monik. I would flat pre, this hand has a high concentration of equity - it either flops really big or flops nothing. We prefer a high spr for these types of hands. Getting a fold from 100% dude would be a disaster.

This flop is good enough, time to spray and pray. We can still make a straight

Pre-flop 3! would be more standard if the pair were QQ and AA. With TT, it isn't as strong a hand. Agree with monikrazy and OmahaDonk on the rest. You aren't folding to a bet on this flop, so you might as well just put it in yourself.

Thanks for the advice.

Earlier, the loose 100% VPIP dude tank folded to a $1200 4bet jam with KT22 double suited, and he said he would have called the $400 3bet. So he’s very wide.

I recognize that my hand might play better as a flat to keep the SPR manageable.

Although, given I’m a PLO noob (I probably logged < 10 hours live in the past year) I was kinda happy to just push my equity and get into low SPR spots so that I could just commit on favorable flops. Idk if that’s faulty thinking.

The game is playing pretty loose…I saw V2 (semi-competent) 3bet from the SB in a multi-way spot with ATT5ds before, and so I guess I wanted to get in there pre in a pretty loose game.

Possibly could/should have jammed the flop, but I figured this board may have smashed someone, and so I’d give them a chance to bet, and maybe get a second player to commit their stack.

So I check, and it checks around unfortunately,

Turn is the 9s, I check, V1 checks, V2 jams for around $500. v3 folds, I call, V1 jams for an extra $300, I call.

River is Jd.

V1 showed 8633 — kinda surprised he didn’t ship the flop. I guess he was trapping?
V2 mucked and looked very displeased, I assume he had a straight.

If i 3bet pre probably just go small to compel fish to call

Think I'd just bet like 350 on flop as played even though it seems dumb, keeps fish in and can still leverage some folds, probably keeps in worse flush draws.

As played probably just jam turn.

Interesting spot preflop.

Without the 100% fish on your left this is a clear 3b imo. I think it pushes enough equity pre when the MP and BU are at their tightest so as their ranges expand the hand becomes a better 3b. However, the 100% fish being in the hand just offers too much EV so I'm calling. Won't fault you for 3b though.

As played, I'm checking and hoping a lot of money flies in. I don't think this spot generates much EV from forcing folds, I think the EV comes from pushing equity and getting an overlay from the pot odds e.g. if it went 4 ways all in on the flop you would be happy with that spot (extreme scenario obv)

just call pre, this had while pretty is not really that great a three bet, and given the config u want to invite the whale into the pot.

as played, I think we just pot the flop. well, we're obviously stacking off unless the flop checks around, but what is the best way to do so. it's probably not checking around anyway. i think we have the best chance to get multiway if we just pile it now.

Surprised by those saying not to 3b this - people call too wide in live PLO and this is a top 5-10% hand with great playability - must 3b to me. Flop is a math equation - I think I just pot this and hope someone makes a mistake. It's definitely close - not sure how often someone has a set/2pr/straight here, but jamming and checking are pretty close. The only issue with checking is you might make a mistake on future streets, and most likely you're going to have a turn decision to make.

My initial reaction was to 3b also but if you think of choosing the play that generates the most EV, it must be from keeping the game tree open where a fish can lose like 50bbs post flop

but everyone called the raise and in live games people never fold to 3bs. I agree if people are going to fold to 3bs a lot than calling might be the way to go.

I think the opposite. In this spot, if the OR and/or BU is going to fold often then it makes 3b higher EV. I think what actually happens is the 3b just invests more money to build a 3 way pot with these guys and you are only pushing tiny equity. I think better to invest less money preflop, hope to flop big and when you do, look to stack people who are going to make big blunders.